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kwase
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| Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
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| kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
In reference to what/who |
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eureca
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| kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
That's just silly. We are the damn Lakers. We already have the toxic fans/media attention.
In terms of Magic he has talked crapped publicly for a long time. Way before Lebron was here. Don't you remember the embarrassing Mike D'antoni bashing? He went at Jim Buss regularly on ESPN. Did we blame Kobe for that for no reason? No because Magic acting like this is his own doing and has nothing to do with any player on that current roster. |
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I try my best not to dislike Magic these days.
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Someone give Tragic another talk show so no one hears what he has to say.
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| kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
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kwase
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| Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
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Since this thread keeps getting bumped, whynot?
Athletic article from Sept 2021
| Quote: | After weeks of conversation with James, Davis and then-Lakers forward Jared Dudley, who emerged as a sort of consigliere to the Lakers’ superstars in these meetings, Westbrook believed he was on his way to L.A. For years he had angled to get home, and now everything was lining up for it to finally happen.
There was only one problem: The Lakers’ efforts to complete the fairytale had been repeatedly stymied by the Wizards’ refusal to make Westbrook available because, sources said, they still planned on moving forward with the Westbrook-Beal backcourt. Westbrook, for his part, would have played out the remaining two seasons on his deal if a trade hadn’t materialized.
“No one thought that Russ would get out,” said one source close to the discussions.
So by the morning of the NBA Draft on July 29, with seemingly no trade for Westbrook available, Rob Pelinka, the Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager, appeared to have no choice but to move on. The Lakers’ brass had spent considerable time on a backup plan to net Sacramento’s 28-year-old marksman Buddy Hield. He addressed the team’s shooting needs if not exactly their thirst for another star.
That day, a telltale moment occurred: Westbrook received a tip. Not only could the Lakers not break through with the Wizards, but also they were on the cusp of trading Kyle Kuzma and Montrezl Harrell — players whose salaries would be required to execute a Westbrook trade — to the Kings for Hield.
“That set Russ off,” one source said. “All he wanted, by any means, was to be a Laker.”
So shortly before noon on July 29, he asked his billionaire boss, Ted Leonsis, for a personal favor: Find a way for him to land with the Lakers.
“(Westbrook) took control of his situation,” one involved source said.
The Wizards softened their stance and Washington GM Tommy Sheppard called Pelinka to initiate conversations. Within hours, the Lakers had scrapped their talks for Hield and instead traded Kuzma, Harrell and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, along with the No. 22 pick in that night’s draft, to the Wizards for Westbrook. As is the case with any superstar trade, both sides needed to feel strongly about coming to terms, and this deal accomplished goals for both parties. The Wizards were able to move Westbrook’s deal a year after trading away John Wall to bring Westbrook in, and acquired three rotation players who provide short- and long-term flexibility for the franchise.
Lakers owner Jeanie Buss and Leonsis hopped on the phone to finalize the deal at the highest levels, with both sharing their view of the players in the deal and how it was seen as a win-win for both sides.
The Lakers had their third star and a childhood dream was fulfilled. |
So that was the Russ part of the article and I don’t really get “Bron forced Rob to deal for Russ” vibes
Now hers the DeRozan part from that same Athletic article…
| Quote: | It came, however, at the cost of another superstar’s own homecoming dream and his quest to join the Lakers.
One of those potential moves involved DeMar DeRozan, a Compton, Calif., native and former USC star. He took part in two such meetings at James’ home and had separate ongoing phone conversations with James. His conversations with the Lakers co-stars had gone well, with the then-soon-to-be free agent discussing all the ways in which he thought this new star trio might work.
With four All-Star Games and a pair of appearances on All-NBA teams to his name, the longtime Toronto Raptor who had spent the previous three seasons with San Antonio, emerged from his meetings with that locker room brain trust believing he was their priority and he might soon be playing in the purple and gold.
And why not? He had averaged at least 21 points per game in each of the last six seasons and would give the Lakers another go-to scorer.
Yet as the process unfolded, concerns emerged from DeRozan’s side about a perceived disconnect between the Lakers stars and the front office. Were the opinions being shared in the player meetings the same as the front office’s view? Did the left hand know, in essence, what the right hand was doing?
Pelinka has often said he includes James and Davis when it comes to building the roster, asking them the pros and cons of any potential additions and how they feel about the fit. This summer was no different. Whatever conversations James and Davis had when they encountered other players, they did on their own time and interest.
The group focused first on Lillard and Beal, but with no viable path to trading for either of them, turned their attention to more realistic targets: Westbrook, DeRozan, Hield and Kyle Lowry, who would eventually pursue a deal with the Miami Heat instead.
There was genuine excitement shared in the player meetings about how DeRozan would fit. Even if he wasn’t the Lakers’ first choice, it was easy to envision a scenario where he would be their best available option.
For the Lakers, according to those with knowledge of the situation, it was imperative to keep as many potential avenues open as possible.
Sources said Pelinka and his front-office group strongly considered executing a sign-and-trade for the 32-year-old DeRozan, giving up Kuzma and Caldwell-Pope in the process, but couldn’t come to consensus terms with the Spurs in free agency or a suitable contract number for DeRozan. What’s more, sources say the DeRozan option never advanced to the point that it was presented to Buss.
While she has long since empowered Pelinka to be the final front office decision maker, the impact of her family’s legacy remains strong. And the Westbrook deal, quite clearly, was seen as the kind of move that would make her late father, legendary Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss, smile. If only they could get it over the finish line.
Hield could be had for less: Just the salaries of Kuzma and Harrell were needed to make that deal work. The Lakers could add a career 40 percent 3-point shooter while still retaining the first-round pick as well as Caldwell-Pope, their starting shooting guard and a highly rated defender. The internal debate, it seems, went round and round.
But before Westbrook went to Leonsis, Pelinka had locked in on that deal over pursuing a sign-and-trade for DeRozan, and prompted him to look elsewhere. Plan C, if you will, was unofficially off the table.
https://theathletic.com/2848702/2021/09/27/superstar-shopping-lebron-russell-westbrook-and-the-lakers-summer-of-recruiting/
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So from how our 2019 free agency/coaching search happened to our current state of affairs (in terms of how we fired coach to roster confusion to the many leaks that came out this year), it seems there’s been a certain disconnect/dysfunction with our FO.
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| kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
Did you erase the 7 years of Lakers basketball before Lebron got here out of your head? |
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| kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
5 championships he brought as a player. He's still a terrible coach or executive based on what he's shown and 5 championships as a player doesn't absolve him from such criticism.
Magic quitting like he did only benefits himself, which explains a lot about his personality.
If he truly loved the lakers, then he would have left the franchise with more grace and dignity that doesn't harm its reputation.
The lakers had drama but still succeeded because the people creating it still did their jobs well. Magic couldn't do his job well and left, which resulted in the franchise finding some success. Now the lakers aren't succeeding again because pelinka/jeanie/rambii aren't doing their jobs well.
The lakers might not have success until those 4 bozos leave like magic. |
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| kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
1. someone winning titles as a player does not exempt them from criticism or blind loyalty. Magic has made some scummy stuff after retiring. Dude is an octogenarian creating more dark clouds around the team. Not mentioning on live television quitting on the team throwing people under the bus whilst doing it. Get the eff out of here with that nonsense.
2. We were not winning crap for 7 years pre Lebron. The highlight of the team was being on Kimmell getting embarrassed. Or DLO doing a live feed of Swaggy destroying his marriage. Good times. |
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| eureca wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
Did you erase the 7 years of Lakers basketball before Lebron got here out of your head? |
I don't consider those 7 years drama-filled, other than the Jim Buss dilemma. Nothing like what's going on now. We just weren't winning, which happens. Drama is players cussing out the fans at Staples, klutch blaming Pelinka, Rambis belittling Vogel, players on their cell phones during the game, laughing on the sidelines while we not make the playoffs, Russ attacking reporters, Magic quitting and blaming Pelinka and I could go on and on. None of that stuff was happening before you know who got here. |
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| TMG wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
1. someone winning titles as a player does not exempt them from criticism or blind loyalty. Magic has made some scummy stuff after retiring. Dude is an octogenarian creating more dark clouds around the team. Not mentioning on live television quitting on the team throwing people under the bus whilst doing it. Get the eff out of here with that nonsense.
2. We were not winning crap for 7 years pre Lebron. The highlight of the team was being on Kimmell getting embarrassed. Or DLO doing a live feed of Swaggy destroying his marriage. Good times. |
Well, for all the things you hate Magic for, lebron wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. So keep that in mind when you're tallying up the things you dislike about him. |
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| kwase wrote: | | TMG wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
1. someone winning titles as a player does not exempt them from criticism or blind loyalty. Magic has made some scummy stuff after retiring. Dude is an octogenarian creating more dark clouds around the team. Not mentioning on live television quitting on the team throwing people under the bus whilst doing it. Get the eff out of here with that nonsense.
2. We were not winning crap for 7 years pre Lebron. The highlight of the team was being on Kimmell getting embarrassed. Or DLO doing a live feed of Swaggy destroying his marriage. Good times. |
Well, for all the things you hate Magic for, lebron wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. So keep that in mind when you're tallying up the things you dislike about him. |
Maybe. Bron to la was a narrative pre #32. But he got him so props. Now if rob can hopefully get rid of him. That would be a real gangsta move. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | TMG wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
1. someone winning titles as a player does not exempt them from criticism or blind loyalty. Magic has made some scummy stuff after retiring. Dude is an octogenarian creating more dark clouds around the team. Not mentioning on live television quitting on the team throwing people under the bus whilst doing it. Get the eff out of here with that nonsense.
2. We were not winning crap for 7 years pre Lebron. The highlight of the team was being on Kimmell getting embarrassed. Or DLO doing a live feed of Swaggy destroying his marriage. Good times. |
Well, for all the things you hate Magic for, lebron wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. So keep that in mind when you're tallying up the things you dislike about him. |
Maybe. Bron to la was a narrative pre #32. But he got him so props. Now if rob can hopefully get rid of him. That would be a real gangsta move. |
That's true, but I think all this was pre-planned. Magic was close to Maverick Carter and was seen talking to him at games. I think they planted in his ear that they wanted to come here, then Magic starts his Jim Buss bashing campaign to replace him, then convinces Jeannie to sign him. To be honest, I don't think Jeannie gets rid of Jim if it wasn't for Magic saying he'd replace him. We're all just speculating here. None of us are behind closed doors, but my insider told me months before he signed that it was a "done deal" so there was definitely some behind the scenes stuff going on between Magic and lebron. I mean, he's standing outside the guys house at 11:59 before free agency starts. He lives in a gated community so A) How did you know where he lives and B) How did you get inside. Let's just say that Magic worked his contacts and got that info, it's still up to lebron to let him in the house. Magic's biggest problem is he talks too much about things he shouldn't talk about. Again, I don't think it hurts us because the players love him regardless to how the fans take it.
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| kwase wrote: | | eureca wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
Did you erase the 7 years of Lakers basketball before Lebron got here out of your head? |
I don't consider those 7 years drama-filled, other than the Jim Buss dilemma. Nothing like what's going on now. We just weren't winning, which happens. Drama is players cussing out the fans at Staples, klutch blaming Pelinka, Rambis belittling Vogel, players on their cell phones during the game, laughing on the sidelines while we not make the playoffs, Russ attacking reporters, Magic quitting and blaming Pelinka and I could go on and on. None of that stuff was happening before you know who got here. |
You are definitely minimizing the drama here during those years. Nothing that has happened in the past 3 seasons was worse than DLO secretly taping his teammate while he admitted to cheating on his celebrity fiancé and posting it on snapchat.
Kobe was trashing his teammates in practice with a camera on him and then going on Jimmy Kimmel to make fun of them because they were too happy after a win.
Again I think it's silly you are choosing to blame every little thing on Lebron being a Laker. Yes Lebron brings his own drama. Most of the stuff you are mentioning really has nothing to do with Lebron. Russ has been attacking reporters for years. Magic has been causing drama for years.
I think you can come up with a decent anti Lebron argument without just blaming everything on him. |
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| eureca wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | eureca wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Yama wrote: | | kwase wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | | The disrespect towards Magic on this forum is sickening. If you do not agree with him, just say so. Do not pretend you know the man. You know nothing. |
“Toxic”. KD nailed it. This guy got us turning on our own. It’s beyond sickening. |
lol one of our own, you mean the guy who quit on tv without telling anyone, magic should not be around an nba team |
5 Championships my friend. Magic just loves the Lakers, maybe a little too much, and has a platform he can use to get stuff off his chest. He still has major clout among the players so I don't think the things he says affects us that much. DeRozan called him so that should be an indicator that the players still respect him. What difference does it make if he blames lebron for him not coming here. Everybody not living under a rock knows he meddles in personnel decisions.
We've always had drama surrounding the Lakers, but we were winning. If we continue down this path, give this guy an extension and waste a draft pick on his kid, who's not even G-league talent, we might as well change our name to Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey. |
Did you erase the 7 years of Lakers basketball before Lebron got here out of your head? |
I don't consider those 7 years drama-filled, other than the Jim Buss dilemma. Nothing like what's going on now. We just weren't winning, which happens. Drama is players cussing out the fans at Staples, klutch blaming Pelinka, Rambis belittling Vogel, players on their cell phones during the game, laughing on the sidelines while we not make the playoffs, Russ attacking reporters, Magic quitting and blaming Pelinka and I could go on and on. None of that stuff was happening before you know who got here. |
You are definitely minimizing the drama here during those years. Nothing that has happened in the past 3 seasons was worse than DLO secretly taping his teammate while he admitted to cheating on his celebrity fiancé and posting it on snapchat.
Kobe was trashing his teammates in practice with a camera on him and then going on Jimmy Kimmel to make fun of them because they were too happy after a win.
Again I think it's silly you are choosing to blame every little thing on Lebron being a Laker. Yes Lebron brings his own drama. Most of the stuff you are mentioning really has nothing to do with Lebron. Russ has been attacking reporters for years. Magic has been causing drama for years.
I think you can come up with a decent anti Lebron argument without just blaming everything on him. |
Ahh man here we go. Ok, the DLO thing was stupid, I can't argue that, but athletes get into it about women all the time. Not saying it's right. Kobe is Kobe. If he's not winning he's a grouch, rightfully so, and he did not know that they were recording his rant in that practice. As far as the Kimmel show, Kobe didn't say a word, he just gave you that look and you knew what it meant. They were acting silly after a regular season win, led by head goofball himself Nick Young. I really don't like comparing anybody to Kobe because it's not fair. Kobe was not from this planet when you talk about what a player will do in order to win. His mindset was Navy Seal-like. If we're gonna go down this "You're a hater" path then I tap out. I place blame where I feel it needs to be placed and if you disagree that's fine. I can respect other people's opinion, because that's all any of us are doing is giving our opinion. |
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