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Who do you trust to run the Lakers? |
Kurt Rambis and Rob Pelinka should run the basketball side of things |
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Lebron James and Klutch Sports Group should run the basketball side of things |
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troy Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:22 am Post subject: Who do you trust to run the Lakers? Rambis/Rob or Lebron/Klutch |
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Both groups are flawed. But we are stuck with them. Who should run the basketball side of things? Regretfully, thanks to Jeanie Buss, "neither" is not an option. We know that, officially, Lebron and Klutch don't "run" the team. But we also know they have a ton of influence.
So, assuming you absolutely had to choose, who should have the majority influence over the roster of the LA Lakers?
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Between the hammer and the anvil |
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Four Decade Bandwagon Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Watching how both have handled themselves so poorly as this season imploded and died…. Can we please have a “ neither” option.
But all things considered, I would lean towards the current ownership/ FO. Even if showing themselves to be petty and at times seemingly incompetent, I still trust them to have Laker franchise and legacy as their priority.
James /Klutch have no such loyalty. They are only focused on their self interests, reputations and goals. Only focusing on how they can control the narrative and perception of that narrative.
IMO both have used each other to mutual benefit. But in the end I put more trust in Buss/ Rambis/Pelinka attempting to salvage the franchise. With James/Klutch I think they would strip the organization like locusts on a field. And expect gratitude from fans as they do it. |
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Threatt_Level Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:47 am Post subject: |
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C. None of the above. They've proven they're both terrible. |
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ahaider Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:49 am Post subject: |
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LeGM all the way.
He got us AD. I think he could get an executive he likes. James Jones would be nice because they Lebron has a rapport with him and he's well respected. _________________ Author of James Harden and the Strip Club
"The key to good decision making is not knowledge. It is understanding. We are swimming in the former. We are desperately lacking in the latter." - Malcom Gladwell |
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daytripper Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Klutch and the Rambii all need to go. |
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hydrohead Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:26 am Post subject: |
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C. Jesse and Joey run it _________________ Darvin |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Credit to the Klutch interns for coming up with this ridiculous poll.
"Hmmm...who are the two most pathetic people I can put on this poll to make Klutch seem palatable"
Rambis has become the bogeyman symbol of Jeanie's incompetence.
We don't actually know what he does other than hang around with them... but since he was a former Laker and failed coach... let's blame him for the franchise's failure.
Could he be part of the problem? Sure. BUT NO ONE HAS PROVIDED CONCRETE EVIDENCE of his moves or influence. So all of it is pure conjecture.
Are some of the theories about Klutch also conjecture. Also sure... but we have actual evidence of LBJ's unhappiness with the kids and forcing Rob's hand to do the Godfather trade for AD.
We have evidence of LBJ and AD talking to Russ and then watching the team suddenly shift to trading for him.
All I've seen on this board is that Rambis hangs out with Jeanie and tasked with putting the coach on notice... so all of a sudden he's this mastermind who controls the team?
I agree that Jeanie listens to the Rambii... so by proxy they have some responsibility for not telling her to wake the f*ck up and get off this Klutch path while LBJ and AD still have some value... but instead of actually fixing the problem we know about... let's blame this failed coach and act like Klutch did nothing to drain all our assets for the benefit of their soon to be 38 year old client.
LeBron is the most powerful person in the league.
Except when it comes to running the Lakers according to the Klutch stans
Then he's a weak pathetic cuckold who is helpless against power of the mighty Rob Pelinka and Kurt Rambis.
I don't buy that because Jeanie wouldn't trade even more of her picks that suddenly the Rambii are the force of the NBA.
It's still LBJ until proven otherwise. |
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DShotMaker1824 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Threatt_Level wrote: | C. None of the above. They've proven they're both terrible. |
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rebirth Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:04 am Post subject: |
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There should be a option for neither. _________________ “What is 17,505”
“Rest at the end not at the middle” |
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cathy78 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I actually believe if Pelinka wouldn't have Rambo, Klutch and Magic in his ear all day long he would do a lot better.
Actually I think Vogel and the coaching staff together with Pelinka could do really good. Or could have done. |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Answer Rob/Rambis if you want to protest this poll
Because essentially it's asking you would you like to live under the peace of Putin's fascist rule... or be bombed escaping Mariupol?
Don't mean to trivialize a truly horrible situation... but that's how absurd the poll is. |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:49 am Post subject: |
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LeBron and Klutch all day. That tells how little I think about Jeannie Buss, Phil and the Rambii. At least Klutch is connected with todays nba. The other side is still living in the 80s show time and early 2000s. |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:53 am Post subject: |
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BILL SHARMAN |
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troy Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:53 am Post subject: |
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BILBJH wrote: | Answer Rob/Rambis if you want to protest this poll
Because essentially it's asking you would you like to live under the peace of Putin's fascist rule... or be bombed escaping Mariupol?
Don't mean to trivialize a truly horrible situation... but that's how absurd the poll is. |
But isn't it reality? As I see it, there are 4 people in charge of the Laker's roster - Pelinka, Rambis, Lebron, and Klutch (person, per se). Pelinka and Rambis are on the same side of the coin. Lebron and Klutch are obviously working together. So, who else has any sort of control over this Lakers team? We have to choose between a rock and a hard spot, yes. And that's the tragedy of where we are as Lakers fans. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:54 am Post subject: |
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DShotMaker1824 wrote: | Threatt_Level wrote: | C. None of the above. They've proven they're both terrible. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:54 am Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | DShotMaker1824 wrote: | Threatt_Level wrote: | C. None of the above. They've proven they're both terrible. |
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dabask11 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Neither
But if these are the only 2 options then Klutch/Lebron.
At least Klutch has the clout of lebron, who resonates with this/future generations, and multiple FA's they could possibly send our way due to their brand.
The current FO has shown almost no redeeming qualities for running an NBA franchise successfully.
Jeannie has shown she knows nothing about basketball. She's cheap with the exception of spending for "names". The worst thing about her is hiring people who she trusts instead of the capability to get things done.
Pelinka has no professional background or experience in basketball except being an agent, which is an entirely different field compared to making roster moves and decisions. He has a terrible reputation among GM's/FO's/Agents, shows no idea for roster construction and is considered a liar, backstabber with no class.
The Rambii we have no clue of their role. Even so, they don't have a confidence-inspiring history. Kurt has been terrible in all his stints so far like Min/Nyk. Linda doesn't have a background and is only involved because she's jeannie's best friend.
Overall LeGM and his faults still look more tantalizing the current FO. I'd rather have more proven people over either of them if I had a choice. |
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cital Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Neither |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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troy wrote: | BILBJH wrote: | Answer Rob/Rambis if you want to protest this poll
Because essentially it's asking you would you like to live under the peace of Putin's fascist rule... or be bombed escaping Mariupol?
Don't mean to trivialize a truly horrible situation... but that's how absurd the poll is. |
But isn't it reality? As I see it, there are 4 people in charge of the Laker's roster - Pelinka, Rambis, Lebron, and Klutch (person, per se). Pelinka and Rambis are on the same side of the coin. Lebron and Klutch are obviously working together. So, who else has any sort of control over this Lakers team? We have to choose between a rock and a hard spot, yes. And that's the tragedy of where we are as Lakers fans. |
I get how for the short term Klutch keeps you at least in the playoffs.
I'll admit that... but I still think they've done nothing without LBJ... other than Draymond's success which obviously still depended more on having KD, Steph, Klay combined with him... And a lot of the players like Wall, Simmons, JR Smith... got paid and then did nothing.
As a sports agency, I'd sign my kid up with them... in terms of guiding a franchise... they've done nothing without LBJ.
So although Klutch keeps us from becoming the Byron Scott years... I don't think they bring back our glory years either.
I'm for blowing it all up and trying a completely new management team.
If I were Jeanie I'd go offer Andrew Friedman double what he's making and have him run the Lakers instead. |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hire Sam Presti
It would be on par with the move the Dodgers made when they hired Andrew Friedman. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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None of the above _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Between the hammer and the anvil |
BIG PASS on both _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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They are one and the same.
Makes me miss Mitch badly. |
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troy Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | danzag wrote: | Between the hammer and the anvil |
BIG PASS on both |
Pass to what though? Who else runs the Lakers? Jeanie? |
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