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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 4:56 am    Post subject:

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How on earth was his defense trash in this series? He did an excellent job executing the scheme as a chaser. He might have been our best defender on Klay.


Playoffs are about matchups. We all know this, but it's easy to forget it in the heat of the games. By all accounts, Lonnie is a really good guy and has a really good attitude. I would be happy to see him succeed. However, he has a long track record as a poor defender. It will take more than a handful of playoff games with a particular matchup to shake that reputation.

Remember that Hachimura was the toast of Laker Nation in the Memphis series. He played okay against the Warriors, but the matchups were not as favorable. We'll see if Lonnie has an impact against the Nuggets.

I'm only arguing against the notion that he was a poor defender during this specific series. I acknowledge that he was poor defensively during the regular season (which is partially why he fell out of the rotation in the first place) but his athleticism made him a real asset as a chaser against the Warriors. I don't see how anyone can come away from this series thinking that Lonnie performed poorly on either side of the floor.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 6:20 am    Post subject:

^^^^

That is true.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 8:59 am    Post subject:

Small sample size but the RAPTOR metric seems to support that as well. +2.5 on defense, trailing only AD and Vando.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:00 am    Post subject:

Curry is already recruiting lonnie to the Dubs ... gave him a signed jersey.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:02 am    Post subject:

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Curry is already recruiting lonnie to the Dubs ... gave him a signed jersey.


Curry probably knows they can't retain DDV. lol
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:12 am    Post subject:

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Curry is already recruiting lonnie to the Dubs ... gave him a signed jersey.


Curry probably knows they can't retain DDV. lol


I think they have DDV for one more year.

I checked because I'd want him for the Lakers.
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Curry is already recruiting lonnie to the Dubs ... gave him a signed jersey.


Curry probably knows they can't retain DDV. lol


I think they have DDV for one more year.

I checked because I'd want him for the Lakers.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 1:12 pm    Post subject:

GSW unlikely to have TPMLE this summer given what Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Poole, Draymond salaries will be.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:46 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:35 am    Post subject:

What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:47 am    Post subject:

lakersfan32 wrote:
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Lakersfan1211 wrote:
oaktown_dimond wrote:
Curry is already recruiting lonnie to the Dubs ... gave him a signed jersey.


Curry probably knows they can't retain DDV. lol


I think they have DDV for one more year.

I checked because I'd want him for the Lakers.


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Yeah he’s gone.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:50 pm    Post subject:

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What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie


Beal is overpaid, but he's a genuine star.

Walker couldn't start for the Suns. He's a competent rotation player at best.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:02 pm    Post subject:

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What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie


Beal is overpaid, but he's a genuine star.

Walker couldn't start for the Suns. He's a competent rotation player at best.


When was the last time he put up star numbers?
I don‘t get why the Suns pay that much for pure offense
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:11 pm    Post subject:

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What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie


Beal is overpaid, but he's a genuine star.

Walker couldn't start for the Suns. He's a competent rotation player at best.


When was the last time he put up star numbers?
I don‘t get why the Suns pay that much for pure offense


36?

37?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:16 pm    Post subject:

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What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie


Beal is overpaid, but he's a genuine star.

Walker couldn't start for the Suns. He's a competent rotation player at best.


When was the last time he put up star numbers?
I don‘t get why the Suns pay that much for pure offense


Beal was an all-star two years ago when he averaged 30 ppg.

I think he's overpaid, and I can question the wisdom of the Sun getting him (though it seems like a good deal for what they paid.)

My main point is that Walker isn't close to being an equivalent player, so it doesn't make sense to make this a Walker vs. Beal question. As I noted, Walker couldn't start for the Sun, and he might not be able to make their rotation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:59 am    Post subject:

Like I said, he's by far not as good as Beal.... but 40 mil


but I'm okay with it
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:40 pm    Post subject:

I’m ok with LWIV and wouldn’t want to pass on him unless a significantly better upgrade is obtained.

That being said…give me Divinceno with the partialMLE…better 3pt shooting, better assists, better rebounds, and most importantly better defense with DDV is significant enough to switch out LWIV.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:45 pm    Post subject:

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I’m ok with LWIV and wouldn’t want to pass on him unless a significantly better upgrade is obtained.

That being said…give me Divinceno with the partialMLE…better 3pt shooting, better assists, better rebounds, and most importantly better defense with DDV is significant enough to switch out LWIV.

DDV would probably be a full MLE type guy. Still plausible, but he’ll be highly sought after
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:00 am    Post subject:

matigol wrote:
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matigol wrote:
What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie


Beal is overpaid, but he's a genuine star.

Walker couldn't start for the Suns. He's a competent rotation player at best.


When was the last time he put up star numbers?
I don‘t get why the Suns pay that much for pure offense



This is the best chance they have to win it all since the Nash era - have to go all in. What do picks even mean if you want a ring so so bad. They will literally ruin the next decade gladly if it means they get a ring. Have to capitalize on whatever KD has left. This is how some franchises think. Also cp3 was washed. Huge upgrade with Beal.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:00 am    Post subject:

matigol wrote:
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What makes Bradley Beal 40 Mil $ better than Lonnie?


Beal is better for sure, but 40 Mil?

Suns could have a slightly weaker player for less $ in Lonnie


Beal is overpaid, but he's a genuine star.

Walker couldn't start for the Suns. He's a competent rotation player at best.


When was the last time he put up star numbers?
I don‘t get why the Suns pay that much for pure offense

That pure offense was Nuggs biggest test with barely any games played together. They need marginal players at best and like every other team health. If they are somewhat healthy for postseason it’s them and the Nuggs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:38 am    Post subject:

Lakers reportedly will be trying to bring back Lonnie Walker IV. Smart decision.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:48 am    Post subject:

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Curry is already recruiting lonnie to the Dubs ... gave him a signed jersey.


If Divinceno will take about half of the ntpMLE I’d gladly trade LWIV for him so Steph can have his recruitment successful 😂
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I’m ok with LWIV and wouldn’t want to pass on him unless a significantly better upgrade is obtained.

That being said…give me Divinceno with the partialMLE…better 3pt shooting, better assists, better rebounds, and most importantly better defense with DDV is significant enough to switch out LWIV.

DDV would probably be a full MLE type guy. Still plausible, but he’ll be highly sought after


You’re probably right. If so I’d rather have Shro/LWIV split the ntpMLE than add Divin and then have to go bargin shopping with the vet min for a back up PG.
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Hanging from Rafters wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
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I’m ok with LWIV and wouldn’t want to pass on him unless a significantly better upgrade is obtained.

That being said…give me Divinceno with the partialMLE…better 3pt shooting, better assists, better rebounds, and most importantly better defense with DDV is significant enough to switch out LWIV.

DDV would probably be a full MLE type guy. Still plausible, but he’ll be highly sought after


You’re probably right. If so I’d rather have Shro/LWIV split the ntpMLE than add Divin and then have to go bargin shopping with the vet min for a back up PG.
DDV >>> Schro/LW4 imo
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tox wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
I’m ok with LWIV and wouldn’t want to pass on him unless a significantly better upgrade is obtained.

That being said…give me Divinceno with the partialMLE…better 3pt shooting, better assists, better rebounds, and most importantly better defense with DDV is significant enough to switch out LWIV.

DDV would probably be a full MLE type guy. Still plausible, but he’ll be highly sought after


You’re probably right. If so I’d rather have Shro/LWIV split the ntpMLE than add Divin and then have to go bargin shopping with the vet min for a back up PG.
DDV >>> Schro/LW4 imo


Except in the playoffs where they both outplayed him and out defended him to send him home. He’s not better than Denis especially not in fourth quarters or as a fill in starter if Russell, Reaves, or Bron miss games
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