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LakerDYnasty72
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | One overlooked aspect of the trade dynamic is the fact that Kyrie was not likely coming here unless there was a third team involved. Why? The trade would have reunited Russ & Durant.
I might be wrong but I couldn't see KD wanting that to happen. |
Nets could just buyout Russ |
As the poster below points out, and be left with what? |
Picks ... it was just a response to KD not wanting Russ.
You guys really turn everything into a giant controversy |
The only "controversy" is your use of the word. Otherwise, there's no controversy. |
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Glad we can close this thread till the summer when Ky is a FA haha
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That’s more about kyrie than it is lakers. |
So if Kyrie had said "Please don't trade me to the Lakers!" then Tsai would have done it for two 2nd round picks?
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: |
That’s more about kyrie than it is lakers. |
So if Kyrie had said "Please don't trade me to the Lakers!" then Tsai would have done it for two 2nd round picks? |
We don’t know. He has said lakers since the off season.
But our offer wasn’t the best
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lar9149
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If this is true, does this effect the Nets future?
As in will players be less likely to play there since the organization doesn’t care about players request? Or perhaps no one will care since Kyrie is an exception due to his past history. |
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I'd say no. Kyrie asked for a trade and they honored his request. Their ability or inability to get star players to sign with them in the future will be based on what the roster looks like and how much they are willing to pay said star player(s).
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If this is true, does this effect the Nets future?
As in will players be less likely to play there since the organization doesn’t care about players request? Or perhaps no one will care since Kyrie is an exception due to his past history. |
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| lar9149 wrote: |
If this is true, does this effect the Nets future?
As in will players be less likely to play there since the organization doesn’t care about players request? Or perhaps no one will care since Kyrie is an exception due to his past history. |
Kyries agent is his aunt correct? Luckily for the nets she doesn’t have any other clients. Pissing off a power broker might have more backlash. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: |
If this is true, does this effect the Nets future?
As in will players be less likely to play there since the organization doesn’t care about players request? Or perhaps no one will care since Kyrie is an exception due to his past history. |
Kyries agent is his aunt correct? Luckily for the nets she doesn’t have any other clients. Pissing off a power broker might have more backlash. |
Nailed it. No owner would want to dump all over a mega agent with a deep client roster. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: |
If this is true, does this effect the Nets future?
As in will players be less likely to play there since the organization doesn’t care about players request? Or perhaps no one will care since Kyrie is an exception due to his past history. |
Kyries agent is his aunt correct? Luckily for the nets she doesn’t have any other clients. Pissing off a power broker might have more backlash. |
Nailed it. No owner would want to dump all over a mega agent with a deep client roster. |
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| kyrie shoulda played 3d chess and say he didn't wanna go to the lakers |
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Glad that Joe Tsai stood his ground
Mavs got Kyrie, hence they have two players that need the ball. Who will get the final shot in close games - Kyrie (no way). This off-season, the Mavs will have countless questions since they went all in. Since the odds that the Mavs will go far in the playoffs are not good, what will Kyrie do this off-season - who knows (better question, who cares)
Today there was a joke that this season is the first time in three years that Harden wasn't traded in mid-season - LMAO
Saga of Ben Simmons who still is not playing
Owners will DEFINITELY want some changes to happen to prevent this senseless chaos and entitlement. I am definitely for the players to maximize the amount of dollars in every contract, but you have to produce and play the games!! |
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I'm glad the Lakers made a real effort to get Kyrie, but not too much of one. Maybe Rob showed good discipline on this one. I wanted Kyrie from a basketball standpoint, but good riddance to that antisemitic conspiracy theorist.
Now that he is going to Dallas, the Lakers better not try to sign him this summer if he turns down an extension. Even if Kyrie accepted whatever we offered him, and even if he were a model citizen here, we would have no cap space or resources to field a competitive supporting cast around him, LeBron and AD. That would mean Austin Reaves, Thomas Bryant, Lonnie Walker IV and Dennis Schroder would all leave, and at best, we would only keep one of them with our MMLE.
The Lakers also better not chase any other "names" this summer. Just try to make a trade now for another significant piece, re-sign Rui, Bryant, Reaves and maybe DS and Walker this summer and maybe add one more piece this summer. |
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| Mavs overpaid for a player that is so unpredictable. He's elite when he plays but he's injured a lot and mentally he's a headcase. If they Lakers offered two firsts they are probably going to look back on it and think they are lucky it wasn't accepted |
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| ducasse wrote: | | Mavs overpaid for a player that is so unpredictable. He's elite when he plays but he's injured a lot and mentally he's a headcase. If they Lakers offered two firsts they are probably going to look back on it and think they are lucky it wasn't accepted |
I don’t think Mavs overpaid in this trade. They are more likely to make the playoff than not which makes the pick outside the lottery. The players they sent are good role players at best and they are not going anywhere with that lineup. They made a gamble for an unpredictable player but they didn’t really give up much |
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Stein didn't really say that. You're reporting clickbaiters misquoting a clickbaiter.
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| AR, Christie, both first, pick swaps and WB for Kyrie with no guarantee to lock in, is way to much for the Lakers. We objectively know it was an over pay because what the Nets settled on was a significantly lesser package 1 unprotected 1st, 2 seconds and 2 rotation players vs 3 rotation players, one arguably in the 6th man of the year convo, 2 FRP picks unprotected, and swaps. Yeah, that's a hard pass for the Lakers and easy one to pass on, sucks but it is what it is. |
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troy
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Is is his objective to destroy what was once a superteam in New Jersey? If so, mission accomplished. Lakers will be just fine. |
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| No star signed with nets before these 2 goofballs and nobody will again sign with the nets |
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| av3773 wrote: | | AR, Christie, both first, pick swaps and WB for Kyrie with no guarantee to lock in, is way to much for the Lakers. We objectively know it was an over pay because what the Nets settled on was a significantly lesser package 1 unprotected 1st, 2 seconds and 2 rotation players vs 3 rotation players, one arguably in the 6th man of the year convo, 2 FRP picks unprotected, and swaps. Yeah, that's a hard pass for the Lakers and easy one to pass on, sucks but it is what it is. |
The pick swaps is what makes it ridiculous. We are high on Christie and Reaves for good reason, but they aren't that much better value wise than the players the Mavs sent. But us adding an extra first rounder AND swaps is out of control rip off territory for what could effectively be a rental. |
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lar9149
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| troy wrote: |
Is is his objective to destroy what was once a superteam in New Jersey? If so, mission accomplished. Lakers will be just fine. |
My question is if Kyrie wanted to go the Lakers and now is in Dallas, will he pull similar stuff like with the nets like sitting out games and the like |
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https://twitter.com/FanDuelTV/status/1622616521490014209
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“We’ve been talking about the Lakers for eight months, they’ve had multiple opportunities here to try to engage with the Nets, and I’m told they put together an offer of Russell Westbrook, two first round draft picks, and the Nets asked for Austin Reaves and other assets.”
“What’s interesting here is I’m told that the Lakers never really countered with Reaves or any other asset in these trade negotiations, they really stayed firm with Russell Westbrook and those two first-round picks and the Nets did not hear from them on Sunday, the day of the Kyrie Irving trade.”
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Pelinka should’ve countered something like Lonnie instead of Reaves. He probably was just busy playing Call of Duty on Sunday.
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| Lonzo-Lite wrote: | https://twitter.com/FanDuelTV/status/1622616521490014209
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“We’ve been talking about the Lakers for eight months, they’ve had multiple opportunities here to try to engage with the Nets, and I’m told they put together an offer of Russell Westbrook, two first round draft picks, and the Nets asked for Austin Reaves and other assets.”
“What’s interesting here is I’m told that the Lakers never really countered with Reaves or any other asset in these trade negotiations, they really stayed firm with Russell Westbrook and those two first-round picks and the Nets did not hear from them on Sunday, the day of the Kyrie Irving trade.”
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Pelinka should’ve countered something like Lonnie instead of Reaves. He probably was just busy playing Call of Duty on Sunday. |
Nope, not the case. Disagree. I am thankful Pelinka did not counter offer and call that fool Tsai, back. Laker fans should be very happy with Pelinka today, I know I am.
Lakers offered Westbrook + 2 FRPs
Tsai wanted Westbrook + 2 FRPs + pick swaps + Reaves + Christie.
Tsai even wanted Rui.
They didn't want Walker or any of the other trash on our roster.
Bravo to Pelinka for not being screwed. I commend him for not calling back yesterday. How can any Laker fan be mad? Irving is a free agent in the summer and that package Tsai wanted from the Lakers would have been god awful.... |
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| lar9149 wrote: | | troy wrote: |
Is is his objective to destroy what was once a superteam in New Jersey? If so, mission accomplished. Lakers will be just fine. |
My question is if Kyrie wanted to go the Lakers and now is in Dallas, will he pull similar stuff like with the nets like sitting out games and the like |
If Kyrie truly wants to be a Laker, he will be. |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | https://twitter.com/FanDuelTV/status/1622616521490014209
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“We’ve been talking about the Lakers for eight months, they’ve had multiple opportunities here to try to engage with the Nets, and I’m told they put together an offer of Russell Westbrook, two first round draft picks, and the Nets asked for Austin Reaves and other assets.”
“What’s interesting here is I’m told that the Lakers never really countered with Reaves or any other asset in these trade negotiations, they really stayed firm with Russell Westbrook and those two first-round picks and the Nets did not hear from them on Sunday, the day of the Kyrie Irving trade.”
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Pelinka should’ve countered something like Lonnie instead of Reaves. He probably was just busy playing Call of Duty on Sunday. |
Nope, not the case. Disagree. I am thankful Pelinka did not counter offer and call that fool Tsai, back. Laker fans should be very happy with Pelinka today, I know I am.
Lakers offered Westbrook + 2 FRPs
Tsai wanted Westbrook + 2 FRPs + pick swaps + Reaves + Christie.
Tsai even wanted Rui.
They didn't want Walker or any of the other trash on our roster.
Bravo to Pelinka for not being screwed. I commend him for not calling back yesterday. How can any Laker fan be mad? Irving is a free agent in the summer and that package Tsai wanted from the Lakers would have been god awful.... |
I'm not mad at Pelinka for this. Other things, yes, but not for this. This season is a bust; let it go. Lets see what happens during the off-season as far as trades are concerned. |
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