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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:08 pm    Post subject:

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The “belief” is that the #Lakers are trying to keep as much cap space available next summer for Kyrie Irving when he becomes a free agent.

LA will “try” their best in any trade to not take back any long-term salary past this year.

(via @MikeAScotto on @LateNightLakersSpaces)


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Meanwhile they waste possibly LeBron’s last superstar season.


I think that we have already seen Lebron’s last superstar season
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:42 pm    Post subject:

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The “belief” is that the #Lakers are trying to keep as much cap space available next summer for Kyrie Irving when he becomes a free agent.

LA will “try” their best in any trade to not take back any long-term salary past this year.

(via @MikeAScotto on @LateNightLakersSpaces)


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If Brooklyn starts out meh, Lakers won’t have to wait til next summer to get Kyrie.


I love your optimism bro. Here, I’ll give it a try…

If Lakers make a meh trade right now, they can wait till next summer to swap it out for a maxed out Ky S&t. All we need is Conley/JC (player opt in) to get the minimum 38m necessary to bring Ky back on a 47.6m BK re-up S&t. Who needs cap space!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:27 am    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
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The “belief” is that the #Lakers are trying to keep as much cap space available next summer for Kyrie Irving when he becomes a free agent.

LA will “try” their best in any trade to not take back any long-term salary past this year.

(via @MikeAScotto on @LateNightLakersSpaces)


😑


If Brooklyn starts out meh, Lakers won’t have to wait til next summer to get Kyrie.


I love your optimism bro. Here, I’ll give it a try…

If Lakers make a meh trade right now, they can wait till next summer to swap it out for a maxed out Ky S&t. All we need is Conley/JC (player opt in) to get the minimum 38m necessary to bring Ky back on a 47.6m BK re-up S&t. Who needs cap space!


Oh wow, didn't think it before, the cap space is incase we get hard capped by Kyrie? is this even possible mathematically?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:32 am    Post subject:

The cap spike is 2025. They might be able to convince Kyrie to sign 1+1 to get that new max in 2025, but a 4 year max at 32 years old would trigger over 35 rule. I can see why Kyrie is pressed to sign a 4 year max this off-season or next to avoid the over 35 rule.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:01 am    Post subject:

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The cap spike is 2025. They might be able to convince Kyrie to sign 1+1 to get that new max in 2025, but a 4 year max at 32 years old would trigger over 35 rule. I can see why Kyrie is pressed to sign a 4 year max this off-season or next to avoid the over 35 rule.


They changed it - it's the OVER 38 RULE now (scroll to the bottom).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:37 am    Post subject:

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The cap spike is 2025. They might be able to convince Kyrie to sign 1+1 to get that new max in 2025, but a 4 year max at 32 years old would trigger over 35 rule. I can see why Kyrie is pressed to sign a 4 year max this off-season or next to avoid the over 35 rule.


I highly question if there will be a cap spike, TV ratings aren’t increasing. League Pass has cut their asking price as well. It could be continued hangover from the disastrous 2020 season or cord cutting but the numbers have declined.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:34 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:
Lonzo-Lite wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:
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The “belief” is that the #Lakers are trying to keep as much cap space available next summer for Kyrie Irving when he becomes a free agent.

LA will “try” their best in any trade to not take back any long-term salary past this year.

(via @MikeAScotto on @LateNightLakersSpaces)


😑


If Brooklyn starts out meh, Lakers won’t have to wait til next summer to get Kyrie.


I love your optimism bro. Here, I’ll give it a try…

If Lakers make a meh trade right now, they can wait till next summer to swap it out for a maxed out Ky S&t. All we need is Conley/JC (player opt in) to get the minimum 38m necessary to bring Ky back on a 47.6m BK re-up S&t. Who needs cap space!


Oh wow, didn't think it before, the cap space is incase we get hard capped by Kyrie? is this even possible mathematically?


A S&t’d Ky hard caps us at roughly 173m aka cap apron (on a projected 136m salary cap). I’m thinking LA is more interested in the 165m number which is the tax line. But yeah, you don’t need cap space to bring Ky in on his max number. Not only can’t we do it (we don’t have a projected 47.6m in cap space to get him that number), but recall that Miami didn’t have cap space when they brought in a maxed out Butler via S&t. So this would be no different. 😉

FYI: Bron/AD/Ky@max leads to team salary of about 136m just with those three. In this hypothetical, we wound be capped out already in a 136m salary cap. So we have just about 30m to figure out the rest of the roster before hitting the 165m tax line.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:30 am    Post subject:

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The cap spike is 2025. They might be able to convince Kyrie to sign 1+1 to get that new max in 2025, but a 4 year max at 32 years old would trigger over 35 rule. I can see why Kyrie is pressed to sign a 4 year max this off-season or next to avoid the over 35 rule.


I highly question if there will be a cap spike, TV ratings aren’t increasing. League Pass has cut their asking price as well. It could be continued hangover from the disastrous 2020 season or cord cutting but the numbers have declined.


Viewership has changed and ratings as Nielsen records them don't capture what the analysts look at. My wife was doing her MBA project focusing on TV about 15 years ago. She interviewed a very senior guy at Warner Brothers TV who told her that monetization was changing because of technology at that networks were going to make money differently, through a variety of subscription services, partnerships and other stuff. She didn't quite "get it" then - but when we started getting things like Disney+ and Apple TV bundled with cell phone service, etc., it clicked.

The networks have figured it out: DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE RATINGS

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That is why you have seen sourced reporting that anticipates a massive increase when the NBA's current media rights deal expires in 2025, like the one from CNBC's Jabari Young in March that set expectations at $75 billion — more than triple the existing package — even amid another regular-season ratings decline.

"The value is always rising. You have to think about what that means. What the ratings decline means isn't, 'Oh, my goodness, they're all going to go broke.' That's absurd," added Lewis. "What the ratings decline means is you're going to have to make some sacrifices to get as much money as you want to get. Those sacrifices aren't going to be paying players less. They're probably going to have to put some games on Peacock or ESPN+ or one of these platforms that networks are willing to overpay to get programming for."

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:45 am    Post subject:

Everything in entertainment is being dilluted. There are just so many options. Still, what is probably the only thing America actually still cares to watch live? Sports.
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