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| pjiddy wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | For the trades to fit into the Lakers front office plans, it has to be for guys that fit not only position/talent need, but also still maintaining cap space next off-season.
That’s why for example, Kelly Oubre or Kyle Kuzma fit this bill. They are expiring and fit a huge need for this team.
For what it’s worth, maintaining cap space is especially gonna be important to resign guys like Lonnie Walker and Austin Reaves especially. |
So we’re trading future firsts for a 6-month rental?
Wait a minute… THAT’S MAGIC JOHNSON’S MUSIC! |
Not exactly. It's more of maintaining bird rights for those guys, while trying to resign Walker and Reaves first.
Is that a great plan? Well, no. But I imagine that's the fo thinking.
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To me, Turner is still the best acquisition. Hopefully the Lakers can keep this kind of play up and the FO doesnt have to base their trade targets on whether the player singlehandedly turns (what was looking like) a lottery team into a contender.
I think you also need a tremendous level of job security to trade for picks that far away. Pritchard seems fairly entrenched. Ainge could also wait. Ditto Presti. The Wizards GM? The Detroit GM? Chicago? Those are likely picks for their successors. |
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I would not trade those picks for guys that are not on multi year deals
Trading picks for 50 games would be so like Rob pelinka tough |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | To me, Turner is still the best acquisition. Hopefully the Lakers can keep this kind of play up and the FO doesnt have to base their trade targets on whether the player singlehandedly turns (what was looking like) a lottery team into a contender.
I think you also need a tremendous level of job security to trade for picks that far away. Pritchard seems fairly entrenched. Ainge could also wait. Ditto Presti. The Wizards GM? The Detroit GM? Chicago? Those are likely picks for their successors. |
I agree…some underestimate how thin we are when AD misses time. Maybe it won’t be for long period but it will happen. I agree with Myles but other bigs would work as well I.e. Noel, Olynick, Poeltl, etc. |
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| governator wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | I think a Pat Bev + Nunn + 2nd rd pick for Vucevic could make a lot of sense.
Vucevic is basically Brook Lopez on steroids. |
don't brook lead NBA in blocks |
Yes. He meant to say that Vucevic is Robin Lopez on steroids.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Vucevic is Brook Lopez on steroids offensively.
Vu is also a good rebounder. |
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off topic fellas should i trade Vassell from SA for Scottie Barnes/Marcus Smart or Scottie Barnes/Brook lopez? Fantasy basketball  |
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| Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East.
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| pjiddy wrote: |
I think you also need a tremendous level of job security to trade for picks that far away. Pritchard seems fairly entrenched. Ainge could also wait. Ditto Presti. The Wizards GM? The Detroit GM? Chicago? Those are likely picks for their successors. |
Trading today’s assets for 5-7 years down the line is something many GMs could be fired for. It is basically a crap shot, I would be ticked if Pelinka traded one of our only assets for a 2028 FRP.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
By mix u mean get 4/5 seed and then get blownout in playoffs? Sure |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Pj Washington/ Jalen McDaniels for Nunn and 3 2nd Rd picks we got in Westbrook trade
2 6'9 guys would help a lot |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
Bev and 2 first round picks for OG.
I would do that.
Then see what I can get for Nunn, Christie and a 2nd. |
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| rock0100 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Bev/Nunn/27 1st/ Two seconds |
Would you |
Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
Bev and 2 first round picks for OG.
I would do that.
Then see what I can get for Nunn, Christie and a 2nd. |
2 1st? That's a lot for og |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | rock0100 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Bev/Nunn/27 1st/ Two seconds |
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Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
Bev and 2 first round picks for OG.
I would do that.
Then see what I can get for Nunn, Christie and a 2nd. |
2 1st? That's a lot for og |
I know, but he is only 25 and is about to hit his professional stride. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | To me, Turner is still the best acquisition. Hopefully the Lakers can keep this kind of play up and the FO doesnt have to base their trade targets on whether the player singlehandedly turns (what was looking like) a lottery team into a contender.
I think you also need a tremendous level of job security to trade for picks that far away. Pritchard seems fairly entrenched. Ainge could also wait. Ditto Presti. The Wizards GM? The Detroit GM? Chicago? Those are likely picks for their successors. |
They can always trade them in a follow-up deal and recoup instant value.
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Would you |
Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
By mix u mean get 4/5 seed and then get blownout in playoffs? Sure |
Yes, that is the objective of the business. Make the playoffs, host playoff games, create revenue. Not to help the Lakers out.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
By mix u mean get 4/5 seed and then get blownout in playoffs? Sure |
Yes, that is the objective of the business. Make the playoffs, host playoff games, create revenue. Not to help the Lakers out. |
Yep. Getting a 4 or 5 seed and making the second round of the playoffs would be a successful season for the Raptors. The same would be true for most of the teams in the league. Heck, it would be a successful season for us, though the title-or-bust crowd would disagree.
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| rock0100 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | textbook wrote: | Would Toronto do
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Bev/Nunn/27 1st/ Two seconds |
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Not if I’m Toronto and in the mix in the East. |
Bev and 2 first round picks for OG.
I would do that.
Then see what I can get for Nunn, Christie and a 2nd. |
Unless AD is involved, we don’t have a trade package that nets us OG. He hasn’t peaked yet and he’s still really good for them. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: |
I think you also need a tremendous level of job security to trade for picks that far away. Pritchard seems fairly entrenched. Ainge could also wait. Ditto Presti. The Wizards GM? The Detroit GM? Chicago? Those are likely picks for their successors. |
Trading today’s assets for 5-7 years down the line is something many GMs could be fired for. It is basically a crap shot, I would be ticked if Pelinka traded one of our only assets for a 2028 FRP. |
It was reported that Ainge tried to get one of those firsts for Bojan. And Pritchard wanting both picks. The lakers were the ones who balked. However the fans felt about it didn’t seem to concern them. Indy might be changing its mind about trading Turner now that they’re winning but Hield definitely seems like the odd man out in their promising guard rotation. As i said, you would need incredible job security to even entertain that trade. Ainge and Pritchard have that IMO. Other than Presti i can’t think of any other potential sellers who do. Possibly Mitch but only if he got to dump Hayward and Rozier’s contract since MJ is from the Jeanie school of spending.
After that, i don’t see it. All the people floating bulls trades i think aren’t considering how badly the all-in moves by their GM didn’t work out. If he’s trading those guys, it’s gotta be for some immediately redeemable value. Next year FRPs at worst. There’s no way he’s the one making ’27 and ‘29 picks if he trades with the Lakers. That’s a gift for the guy replacing him. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly it might just come down to Pat and 2nd for Kuz or Oubre.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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The only TOR trade I can see happening is Bev/Nunn/1st for GTJ
And do we even need to do a trade like that? Maybe if we think we can’t re-sign Lonnie
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| epic_ wrote: | | Honestly it might just come down to Pat and 2nd for Kuz or Oubre. |
I still like the idea of getting PJ as well, by adding in Nunn and first
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| alleyoop wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Honestly it might just come down to Pat and 2nd for Kuz or Oubre. |
I still like the idea of getting PJ as well, by adding in Nunn and first |
PJ amazingly went 0-13 today heh.
I haven't seen much of him.
What's his game like?
Perimeter or interior on offense? How's his defense? Guards perimeter or the projects the rim?
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we need backups for the bigs, be it C or switchy PF/SF types, even if we got rid of Nunn AND Bev we are still equipped with 5 guards (Dennis, Russ, Reaves, Walker, Christie).
our only playable forwards and centers are AD, LBJ, TBJ and Gabriel. TBJ and Gabriel are fringe rotation players.
Our Top 9/10 looks like:
1/2 -> AD/LBJ
3/4/5 -> Russ/Walker/Reaves
6/7/8 -> Dennis, need two more guys here that can backup AD and LBJ
9/10: TBJ/Gabriel |
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I'd say Lonnie is filling the role thus far that the Lakers would have asked Buddy Hield to fill.
So it may just be Turner the Lakers are after. Does that make a trade easier or harder?
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