No. Those type of moves should only be for someone who would make us favorites.
I know to you Markkanen isn't a "sexy" name for whatever reason. But have you actually watched him play? Like really?
He's 7 foot tall. 250+ pounds and puts up 23/8 and shoots 46% from the field and 39% from three on 4+ attempts. Can run the fast break while handling the ball. Just 26 years old.
And you wouldn't trade Rui+picks for that guy????
I would trade Rui for Markkanen straight up so freaking fast.
Starters:
D'Angelo Russell
Austin Reaves
LeBron James
Lauri Markkanen
Anthony Davis
Bench:
Gabe Vincent
Max Christie
Taurean Prince
Jarred Vanderbilt
Christian Wood / Jaxson Hayes
I would do that so freaking fast.
If LeBron couldn't win a title or at least get to the Finals with THIS roster then GOAT and LeBron should never come up in the same sentence or conversation unless that sentence starts with "LeBron will never ever be the".
There is no flipping way that we could trade Rui for Lauri straight up, while losing no depth and not be favorites next season.
People worried that "Lauri would eventually demand a max" Yeah... that is why you'd want him on your team. You'd be replacing Rui with a player that is about to command a max because of how good they are and you only lost picks in the process. So why is that a bad thing?
Losing picks for max players about to enter their prime when you already have prime max players on your team is an even trade. Unless it's a generational talent like Wemby or something. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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doesn't matter. ainge can do way better than garbage rui for markkannen
Obviously. I'm just going at the notion that Rui+picks for Lauri wouldn't be worth it or wouldn't make us favorites _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
I guess you can post the article about Utah going “big game hunting” And wanting to make playoffs a hundred times, a certain sector of LG will just ignore it and fire themselves up over Markannen lineups that will never happen. Carry on fellas.
I guess you can post the article about Utah going “big game hunting” And wanting to make playoffs a hundred times, a certain sector of LG will just ignore it and fire themselves up over Markannen lineups that will never happen. Carry on fellas.
U mean ignore reality and write essays, post videos?
I guess you can post the article about Utah going “big game hunting” And wanting to make playoffs a hundred times, a certain sector of LG will just ignore it and fire themselves up over Markannen lineups that will never happen. Carry on fellas.
U mean ignore reality and write essays, post videos?
Or you can pay attention that the context isn't saying that the Lakers could get Markkanen in any trade. But instead disagreeing with the idea that trading Rui for Markkennen would somehow be a bad trade.
Or you could ignore all context and rather than be clever, prove that you have no reading comprehension skills. You do you. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Also I think Lauri would be a terrible idea anyway even if it were possible.
AD needs to go back to being a PF AND WE NEED A (bleep) CENTER. Lauri doesn't solve that. Plus in a Laker uniform, and playing with Lebron, I guarantee you he would shoot so much worse here.
We haven't had a good 3 point shooting team since 2009, and Lebron makes most all stars/superstars worse with him (Boozer, Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love). The only exceptions are Kyrie Irving (he's pretty much the same player no matter who he plays with though) and Anthony Davis. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif
I guess you can post the article about Utah going “big game hunting” And wanting to make playoffs a hundred times, a certain sector of LG will just ignore it and fire themselves up over Markannen lineups that will never happen. Carry on fellas.
We will see but honestly it sounds like a bunch of posturing by Danny Ainge. What else is he supposed to say to their fan base? No big time established superstar wants to play in Utah. It isn't Boston where you can add a KG and there isn't a McHale who would gift him to Ainge. That Boston team with Pierce wasn't going anywhere without KG and Allen. Ainge is now sitting in the same spot in Utah but the KG lifeline isn't coming. The rumor is the Jazz want Doncic who has already stated he wants to play with Lauri but that will never happen in Utah. It could happen in LA after Lebron retires if Lauri is on the roster at that point.
Utah isn't getting that tier of player until they draft him. There just happens to be a kid available in the '25 draft that has superstar potential and Utah written all over him. They would win too many games with Lauri on their roster and end up with the 8th pick again. I highly doubt Ainge went to Utah just to ride the treadmill which is why he broke up that Donovan/Rudy team.
Also I think Lauri would be a terrible idea anyway even if it were possible.
AD needs to go back to being a PF AND WE NEED A (bleep) CENTER. Lauri doesn't solve that. Plus in a Laker uniform, and playing with Lebron, I guarantee you he would shoot so much worse here.
We haven't had a good 3 point shooting team since 2009, and Lebron makes most all stars/superstars worse with him (Boozer, Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love). The only exceptions are Kyrie Irving (he's pretty much the same player no matter who he plays with though) and Anthony Davis.
Lakers could just draft a big center with the #17 pick if they don't trade it. They could also sign someone like Goga in FA who shouldn't cost much. I 100% agree they need to add one big body to throw out there against certain matchups especially Denver.
No. Those type of moves should only be for someone who would make us favorites.
I know to you Markkanen isn't a "sexy" name for whatever reason. But have you actually watched him play? Like really?
He's 7 foot tall. 250+ pounds and puts up 23/8 and shoots 46% from the field and 39% from three on 4+ attempts. Can run the fast break while handling the ball. Just 26 years old.
And you wouldn't trade Rui+picks for that guy????
I would trade Rui for Markkanen straight up so freaking fast.
Starters:
D'Angelo Russell
Austin Reaves
LeBron James
Lauri Markkanen
Anthony Davis
Bench:
Gabe Vincent
Max Christie
Taurean Prince
Jarred Vanderbilt
Christian Wood / Jaxson Hayes
I would do that so freaking fast.
If LeBron couldn't win a title or at least get to the Finals with THIS roster then GOAT and LeBron should never come up in the same sentence or conversation unless that sentence starts with "LeBron will never ever be the".
There is no flipping way that we could trade Rui for Lauri straight up, while losing no depth and not be favorites next season.
People worried that "Lauri would eventually demand a max" Yeah... that is why you'd want him on your team. You'd be replacing Rui with a player that is about to command a max because of how good they are and you only lost picks in the process. So why is that a bad thing?
Losing picks for max players about to enter their prime when you already have prime max players on your team is an even trade. Unless it's a generational talent like Wemby or something.
I do see Markannen as super Rui, same-ish role, stretch big who’s capable of covering wings and board hard (which Rui is lacking). He can be #1 or 2 option when Bron/AD sit. With match up against Denver, I think he’s better than MPJ or Gordon. Plus in my fantasy trade, we get to use only Rui salary and picks/swaps to get him (surprisingly salary matches) but we’ll see if Pelinka has tricks like Leon Rose, flipping Barrett bloated contract for OG without a pick _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
Also I think Lauri would be a terrible idea anyway even if it were possible.
AD needs to go back to being a PF AND WE NEED A (bleep) CENTER. Lauri doesn't solve that. Plus in a Laker uniform, and playing with Lebron, I guarantee you he would shoot so much worse here.
We haven't had a good 3 point shooting team since 2009, and Lebron makes most all stars/superstars worse with him (Boozer, Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love). The only exceptions are Kyrie Irving (he's pretty much the same player no matter who he plays with though) and Anthony Davis.
Lakers could just draft a big center with the #17 pick if they don't trade it. They could also sign someone like Goga in FA who shouldn't cost much. I 100% agree they need to add one big body to throw out there against certain matchups especially Denver.
GIMMIE ZACH EDEY PLEASE! PLEASE! 🙏🙏🙏
I do want the Lakers to draft a Center. It's been way too damn long, and the problem at that position has been obvious. We literally haven't drafted a Center since Zubac. I had enough of drafting these unatheltic, uninspiring guards who either don't pan out or don't last long here. FOR ONCE, GIVE ME A DAMN CENTER! _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 5:49 am Post subject:
^^ Or how about first round picks that can't shoot the basketball? DLO is really the only one in recent memory who came out being able to hit outside shots and make their free throws at a professional level. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions!
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 12290 Location: Pasadena, CA
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 7:24 am Post subject:
Megaton wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Also I think Lauri would be a terrible idea anyway even if it were possible.
AD needs to go back to being a PF AND WE NEED A (bleep) CENTER. Lauri doesn't solve that. Plus in a Laker uniform, and playing with Lebron, I guarantee you he would shoot so much worse here.
We haven't had a good 3 point shooting team since 2009, and Lebron makes most all stars/superstars worse with him (Boozer, Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love). The only exceptions are Kyrie Irving (he's pretty much the same player no matter who he plays with though) and Anthony Davis.
Lakers could just draft a big center with the #17 pick if they don't trade it. They could also sign someone like Goga in FA who shouldn't cost much. I 100% agree they need to add one big body to throw out there against certain matchups especially Denver.
GIMMIE ZACH EDEY PLEASE! PLEASE! 🙏🙏🙏
I do want the Lakers to draft a Center. It's been way too damn long, and the problem at that position has been obvious. We literally haven't drafted a Center since Zubac. I had enough of drafting these unatheltic, uninspiring guards who either don't pan out or don't last long here. FOR ONCE, GIVE ME A DAMN CENTER!
I watched Eddy play and he looks like a project to me. His shooting especially that backward hook shot is nothing short of ugly.
I guess you can post the article about Utah going “big game hunting” And wanting to make playoffs a hundred times, a certain sector of LG will just ignore it and fire themselves up over Markannen lineups that will never happen. Carry on fellas.
We will see but honestly it sounds like a bunch of posturing by Danny Ainge. What else is he supposed to say to their fan base? No big time established superstar wants to play in Utah. It isn't Boston where you can add a KG and there isn't a McHale who would gift him to Ainge. That Boston team with Pierce wasn't going anywhere without KG and Allen. Ainge is now sitting in the same spot in Utah but the KG lifeline isn't coming. The rumor is the Jazz want Doncic who has already stated he wants to play with Lauri but that will never happen in Utah. It could happen in LA after Lebron retires if Lauri is on the roster at that point.
Utah isn't getting that tier of player until they draft him. There just happens to be a kid available in the '25 draft that has superstar potential and Utah written all over him. They would win too many games with Lauri on their roster and end up with the 8th pick again. I highly doubt Ainge went to Utah just to ride the treadmill which is why he broke up that Donovan/Rudy team.
Boston couldn’t attract FAs either. KG and Ray had to be traded for. Ditto Kyrie. Because there’s a really good white guy coming out of college, Ainge is gonna do a big teardown and tank for 17% odds at him? What is the point of “posturing” to your fanbase that you’re gonna try to win, only to pull out the rug and tank? Because rival GMs might go “oh gosh, if i want Lauri, i REALLY have to make a good offer. I might have to add an extra swap to this Rui package!!”
Also I think Lauri would be a terrible idea anyway even if it were possible.
AD needs to go back to being a PF AND WE NEED A (bleep) CENTER. Lauri doesn't solve that. Plus in a Laker uniform, and playing with Lebron, I guarantee you he would shoot so much worse here.
We haven't had a good 3 point shooting team since 2009, and Lebron makes most all stars/superstars worse with him (Boozer, Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love). The only exceptions are Kyrie Irving (he's pretty much the same player no matter who he plays with though) and Anthony Davis.
Lakers could just draft a big center with the #17 pick if they don't trade it. They could also sign someone like Goga in FA who shouldn't cost much. I 100% agree they need to add one big body to throw out there against certain matchups especially Denver.
GIMMIE ZACH EDEY PLEASE! PLEASE! 🙏🙏🙏
I do want the Lakers to draft a Center. It's been way too damn long, and the problem at that position has been obvious. We literally haven't drafted a Center since Zubac. I had enough of drafting these unatheltic, uninspiring guards who either don't pan out or don't last long here. FOR ONCE, GIVE ME A DAMN CENTER!
I watched Eddy play and he looks like a project to me. His shooting especially that backward hook shot is nothing short of ugly.
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The best player in college basketball isn't a project.
I don't care how ugly his hook shot 'looks', its super efficient and it goes in. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144588 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 11:55 am Post subject:
pjiddy wrote:
daytripper wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
I guess you can post the article about Utah going “big game hunting” And wanting to make playoffs a hundred times, a certain sector of LG will just ignore it and fire themselves up over Markannen lineups that will never happen. Carry on fellas.
We will see but honestly it sounds like a bunch of posturing by Danny Ainge. What else is he supposed to say to their fan base? No big time established superstar wants to play in Utah. It isn't Boston where you can add a KG and there isn't a McHale who would gift him to Ainge. That Boston team with Pierce wasn't going anywhere without KG and Allen. Ainge is now sitting in the same spot in Utah but the KG lifeline isn't coming. The rumor is the Jazz want Doncic who has already stated he wants to play with Lauri but that will never happen in Utah. It could happen in LA after Lebron retires if Lauri is on the roster at that point.
Utah isn't getting that tier of player until they draft him. There just happens to be a kid available in the '25 draft that has superstar potential and Utah written all over him. They would win too many games with Lauri on their roster and end up with the 8th pick again. I highly doubt Ainge went to Utah just to ride the treadmill which is why he broke up that Donovan/Rudy team.
Boston couldn’t attract FAs either. KG and Ray had to be traded for. Ditto Kyrie. Because there’s a really good white guy coming out of college, Ainge is gonna do a big teardown and tank for 17% odds at him? What is the point of “posturing” to your fanbase that you’re gonna try to win, only to pull out the rug and tank? Because rival GMs might go “oh gosh, if i want Lauri, i REALLY have to make a good offer. I might have to add an extra swap to this Rui package!!”
I would add to those comments that next season the Jazz won’t be the only winter team in town. The Arizona NHL team will be there and they will be fighting the Jazz for fans and ticket sales. Ainge has set the franchise up for this being the time to utilize their assets and try to compete. Failing to do so would cost the franchise. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 12290 Location: Pasadena, CA
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 12:03 pm Post subject:
MJST wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
Megaton wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Also I think Lauri would be a terrible idea anyway even if it were possible.
AD needs to go back to being a PF AND WE NEED A (bleep) CENTER. Lauri doesn't solve that. Plus in a Laker uniform, and playing with Lebron, I guarantee you he would shoot so much worse here.
We haven't had a good 3 point shooting team since 2009, and Lebron makes most all stars/superstars worse with him (Boozer, Wade, Bosh, Kevin Love). The only exceptions are Kyrie Irving (he's pretty much the same player no matter who he plays with though) and Anthony Davis.
Lakers could just draft a big center with the #17 pick if they don't trade it. They could also sign someone like Goga in FA who shouldn't cost much. I 100% agree they need to add one big body to throw out there against certain matchups especially Denver.
GIMMIE ZACH EDEY PLEASE! PLEASE! 🙏🙏🙏
I do want the Lakers to draft a Center. It's been way too damn long, and the problem at that position has been obvious. We literally haven't drafted a Center since Zubac. I had enough of drafting these unatheltic, uninspiring guards who either don't pan out or don't last long here. FOR ONCE, GIVE ME A DAMN CENTER!
I watched Eddy play and he looks like a project to me. His shooting especially that backward hook shot is nothing short of ugly.
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The best player in college basketball isn't a project.
I don't care how ugly his hook shot 'looks', its super efficient and it goes in.
Perhaps a project is not the right word. He is still raw in some ways. He's just huge. Not sure we need him. He will go farther up in the draft than we can get anyway....
The Pelicans are not expected to offer Brandon Ingram a contract extension this offseason.
Ingram is eligible to sign a four-year, $208 million deal, but New Orleans will be going in another direction.
Trey Murphy III is also eligible for a rookie-scale extension expected to pay him $20-25 million annually.
All signs point towards New Orleans prioritizing Murphy over Ingram as their wing of the future.
New Orleans will have Ingram’s $36 million salary and valuable draft capital to attempt to pair another star alongside Zion Williamson.
I'd prioritize Murphy over Ingram too
Ingram has a similar problem to Julius Randle in that they demand a certain level of ball dominance to be effective, but they aren't good enough to make their team a contender by doing so.
I don't think Ingram is a good complementary player. He isn't effective off-ball, he doesn't shoot at a consistent rate, and he doesn't play defense.
I think he's the worst former Lakers suggestion the fans have.
I want nothing to do with trying to fit that guy on a contending team, despite the talent he has.
The Pelicans are not expected to offer Brandon Ingram a contract extension this offseason.
Ingram is eligible to sign a four-year, $208 million deal, but New Orleans will be going in another direction.
Trey Murphy III is also eligible for a rookie-scale extension expected to pay him $20-25 million annually.
All signs point towards New Orleans prioritizing Murphy over Ingram as their wing of the future.
New Orleans will have Ingram’s $36 million salary and valuable draft capital to attempt to pair another star alongside Zion Williamson.
I'd prioritize Murphy over Ingram too
Not sure what people see in Murphy. I watched him a bit on league pass. He's a good shooter, but his shot creation metrics are poor. He has the athleticism to take it to the next level, but like Jaxson Hayes, his head seems to get in the way. As far as BI - I just want to see BI play for a competent organization, which obviously isn't the Lakers. I do hope he leaves or gets traded tbh. Pels aren't going anywhere with Zion until they fix his injury woes. _________________ Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
Starting anew. I'm retiring my main.
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As expected, Chicago Bulls guard Lonzo Ball has picked up the $21.4 million option on his contract for 2024-2025, sources tell ESPN. Ball has missed the last 2.5 seasons with a knee injury. He signed an original four-year, $80M free agent deal in 2021.
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