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ChickenStu
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| tox wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | I believe Donovan Mitchell would be that 3rd guy to actually get us over the top. |
Im not a big D. Mitchell fan but I can't deny he turns it on in the playoffs. Cavs were cooked without him against the Magic. He nearly won game 6 on his own. He's been winning me over, slowly. I dunno how the Lakers could get him but I would be a great addition |
His name has been linked with LA along with Young. I also doubt we have enough. On the flip side, he would have a lot of leverage if he were to ask out as some reports are saying he might being on an exp k next year. |
I wonder who the Lakers would trade. Have to assume Reaves is in the deal but who else?
In any case, I'm hopefull for a productive off season |
He earns $28M so I assume it'd be something like Reaves/Hachimura + multiple FRP (the Lakers have up to 3). |
Mitchell is at just over $35.4MM for next season, and will be a virtual expiring since he has a player option for '25-26 that he would decline. You trade Rui, Reaves, filler, and all of our picks for him if he's on the table. (I mean, if they'll take Vando instead of Reaves, and all our picks, all the better.) He's an all-NBA performer who is in his 20's who brings it come playoff time. You empty the cupboard for that, and unlike a horrible fit like Trae (too much money, would gut the team) or, gasp, what Westbrook was, there aren't really fit issues. If you can get Spida, you do it.
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LeBron for Butler? |
For what? Certainly not a player for the Lakers to go after a ship, perhaps you’re asking for another reason. |
Dude just loves making trade scenarios for the sake of it. It's what he lives for. |
Just having fun lol I know Butler is getting up there in age with a lot of milage and injury issues |
Butler doesn't make sense because his salary next season is so high. You'd have to really gut the depth and so it just doesn't make sense. Now, I'd rather have Butler instead of Trae Young, but I'm vehemently opposed to this type of trade where someone is making max money because it leaves you with no depth. Now, a similar offensive player to Butler who might be able to be had at a contract of around $25-30MM a year is DeMar DeRozan, but it would have to be a sign-and-trade. Still, at least he wouldn't necessarily gut your depth if you traded for him. I'd also be going hard after Caruso if we're trading with the Bulls.
This is also why Mitchell makes so much sense (if he's actually attainable) because his $35.4MM salary number next season is not prohibitive.
EDIT: Never mind DeRozan; I forgot that a sign-and-trade hard caps you, and we can't afford to do that.
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Japago wrote: | Riley does a lot of things really well. They had a good coach that they stuck by early when there was pressure to fire him.
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Lol, Stan van Gundy politely disagrees. |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nothing wrong with what Riley said. this is a ruthless business, emotion, kindness, and nepotism has no business in running a NBA franchise. Butler is on the wrong side of 30 and has been often hurt, Riley knows that, therefore he says what's on his mind, the worst thing that can happen is Butler requests a trade and Rile will gladly oblige him and get a boatload of assets in return. this is something our ownership will never do, why? because we're the Lakers, we're a compassionate franchise, we don't turn head on our vets. that' is BS, we're all here to win games, not to please someone or make feel good stories. |
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LakerFan1987
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | nothing wrong with what Riley said. this is a ruthless business, emotion, kindness, and nepotism has no business in running a NBA franchise. Butler is on the wrong side of 30 and has been often hurt, Riley knows that, therefore he says what's on his mind, the worst thing that can happen is Butler requests a trade and Rile will gladly oblige him and get a boatload of assets in return. this is something our ownership will never do, why? because we're the Lakers, we're a compassionate franchise, we don't turn head on our vets. that' is BS, we're all here to win games, not to please someone or make feel good stories. |
I think Riles is pretty clever for saying what he said. If Jimmy takes offense, then it works in Riles favor. Jimmy can leave the Heat. He is not giving Jimmy that big extension, no way is he getting $60M per. |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Jimmy could work in NY |
Randle and Bogdanovich for Jimmy works salary-wise. The issue with Jimmy is that he's an alpha. Would he defer to Brunson down the stretch? In the short term, his defense and tenacity would seem to be a fit with Thibs again. |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems like the two all-stars on the move this summer are Jimmy Butler (35 years old) and Brandon Ingram (27 years old). |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I could see DeRozan going back to San Antonio as a move to give Wemby some veteran help |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| DeRozan + DLO would be a nice off season for the Spurs |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DeRozan + DLO would be a nice off season for the Spurs |
They don't have the cap space to sign both outright. One of them, they could, sure. |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | tox wrote: |
He earns $28M so I assume it'd be something like Reaves/Hachimura + multiple FRP (the Lakers have up to 3). |
Mitchell is at just over $35.4MM for next season, and will be a virtual expiring since he has a player option for '25-26 that he would decline. You trade Rui, Reaves, filler, and all of our picks for him if he's on the table. (I mean, if they'll take Vando instead of Reaves, and all our picks, all the better.) He's an all-NBA performer who is in his 20's who brings it come playoff time. You empty the cupboard for that, and unlike a horrible fit like Trae (too much money, would gut the team) or, gasp, what Westbrook was, there aren't really fit issues. If you can get Spida, you do it. |
I blame Google for giving me fake news when I looked it up.
Anyway I agree getting Mitchell is probably a good move but the Lakers still need more roster moves on top of that. Probably re-signing Russell and trading him for a better fit |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Not one mention of Dangelo Russell in the off-season thread on SpursTalk. |
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | Not one mention of Dangelo Russell in the off-season thread on SpursTalk. |
That’s cause most of there fans think there either getting Chris Paul or Trae Young |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Should have kept Hart over Kuzma in the AD trade |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Should have kept Hart over Kuzma in the AD trade |
I don't know why anyone keeps taking about who we should've kept over who 5 years after and a championship later.
The trade worked out for us. Everything since then has been mistake after mistake. |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope the Lakers and KCP have mutual interest in reuniting together in the summer |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly may be for ANOTHER full-blown tear down of the team outside of AD and LeBron.
The Lakers' supporting cast just aren't the right kind of players.
Like, what do DLo, Rui, and AR offer when they're not scoring effectively?
The Lakers need size and defense across the roster. The Lakers still need offense outside of LeBron and AD nowadays, but they're not bringing enough of that either in the postseason. |
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Need to get another big and get more athletic at our starting backcourt...
Mikal Bridges/Miles Bridges/Myles Turner/Drummond/Richards should be out offseason targets... |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I hope the Lakers and KCP have mutual interest in reuniting together in the summer |
Are you watching the game tonight?
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| We need to get bigger, younger, and more athletic to compete going forward. Easier said than done though…. |
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I think DeJounte would still be a good target because of his 2-way ability. He could possibly be a good 3rd option along with size and defense at PG.
It would be huge to be able to have 1 player bring all of that.
In the playoffs, you're only going to play so many players. The fact that most of the Lakers players bring only offense or defense is 1 weakness of this team. |
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| deal wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I hope the Lakers and KCP have mutual interest in reuniting together in the summer |
Are you watching the game tonight? |
If you are suggesting that he looks bad then look back to the Suns series when he was doing the same thing once he left he ended up winning a title with the Nuggets |
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | We need to get bigger, younger, and more athletic to compete going forward. Easier said than done though…. |
nothings easy but its doable. we just have to commit. Trading every asset for a star probably gets us more wins but nothing more in the stacked west
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe Minny's build will convince the dummies in the FO to finally acquire playable backup bigs. |
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