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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:13 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah but you could argue that we lost defense where we needed it more (on wings) and gained where we weren't really lacking (on smaller guards with Nunn and Reaves already in the fold). Does Pat give us another closer? Arguably not if Nunn returns to form as you can't really consistently close with both, sometimes not even with either depending on the opponent.

I was more excited about the deal when I thought it might be a precursor to a palatable Westbrook trade. The Mitchell deal pretty much killed that.

That said, Bev might be the only person that can fire up Westbrook. Though he is probably equally likely to start a fistfight with him. Otherwise, if the plan was to marginalize THT and Stanley anyway and continue to pursue a Westbrook deal, it can't hurt.


If Kendrick Nunn (who hasn’t played a game in 15 months and has questions about his readiness even now) is closing games for us we are seriously screwed.


Even if we're talking late into the season? I don't think it's out of the question that there is a version of Kendrick Nunn that can close for us in certain situations. If so, there is some redundancy with PatBev. That said, one is injured often and the other coming off a major injury so it is a luxury to have both.


Unless he’s seriously cooking I just would prefer to not play an undersized guy who isn’t a defender when we’ve got defensive options on the roster. I think the other guys are better fits playing off Bron/AD as well.


Who are the best 3 players around LeBron/AD that we currently have?


Westbrook
Nunn
Pat Bev


Car54, are you seriously going to omit Reaves from that group? I would start w/Reaves, then insert Beverley & preferably someone w/size would can play serious defense like (at least I hope) Brown jr.


Y’all overrating Reeves now. Lol I like the kid but he’s behind those guys


But the kid is just a consistent jumper, and a little stronger, from being a damn near perfect fit with AD & James. He's super intelligent, he's fearless, he's got decent handles, he's got size at 6'5, and he seldom makes mistakes, which is critical in tight games and the playoffs, and again imagine him coming back with a jumper.

We'll see but don't be surprised to find him closing a lot of games.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:56 pm    Post subject:

LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Car54 wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Car54 wrote:
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ocho wrote:
gng930 wrote:
ocho wrote:
gng930 wrote:
Yeah but you could argue that we lost defense where we needed it more (on wings) and gained where we weren't really lacking (on smaller guards with Nunn and Reaves already in the fold). Does Pat give us another closer? Arguably not if Nunn returns to form as you can't really consistently close with both, sometimes not even with either depending on the opponent.

I was more excited about the deal when I thought it might be a precursor to a palatable Westbrook trade. The Mitchell deal pretty much killed that.

That said, Bev might be the only person that can fire up Westbrook. Though he is probably equally likely to start a fistfight with him. Otherwise, if the plan was to marginalize THT and Stanley anyway and continue to pursue a Westbrook deal, it can't hurt.


If Kendrick Nunn (who hasn’t played a game in 15 months and has questions about his readiness even now) is closing games for us we are seriously screwed.


Even if we're talking late into the season? I don't think it's out of the question that there is a version of Kendrick Nunn that can close for us in certain situations. If so, there is some redundancy with PatBev. That said, one is injured often and the other coming off a major injury so it is a luxury to have both.


Unless he’s seriously cooking I just would prefer to not play an undersized guy who isn’t a defender when we’ve got defensive options on the roster. I think the other guys are better fits playing off Bron/AD as well.


Who are the best 3 players around LeBron/AD that we currently have?


Westbrook
Nunn
Pat Bev


Car54, are you seriously going to omit Reaves from that group? I would start w/Reaves, then insert Beverley & preferably someone w/size would can play serious defense like (at least I hope) Brown jr.


Y’all overrating Reeves now. Lol I like the kid but he’s behind those guys


But the kid is just a consistent jumper, and a little stronger, from being a damn near perfect fit with AD & James. He's super intelligent, he's fearless, he's got decent handles, he's got size at 6'5, and he seldom makes mistakes, which is critical in tight games and the playoffs, and again imagine him coming back with a jumper.

We'll see but don't be surprised to find him closing a lot of games.


Yes but can we wait for it to happen before giving him flowers?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:12 am    Post subject:

^You haven’t earned anything in the NBA till they actually care to make you look like yourself in 2k. Reaves doesn’t get his flowers till then…

https://twitter.com/KamBrothers/status/1567920610793385985

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From one goofy take to another, PatB has a “good feeling” Skippy is wrong…

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:26 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Car54 wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Car54 wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
ocho wrote:
gng930 wrote:
ocho wrote:
gng930 wrote:
Yeah but you could argue that we lost defense where we needed it more (on wings) and gained where we weren't really lacking (on smaller guards with Nunn and Reaves already in the fold). Does Pat give us another closer? Arguably not if Nunn returns to form as you can't really consistently close with both, sometimes not even with either depending on the opponent.

I was more excited about the deal when I thought it might be a precursor to a palatable Westbrook trade. The Mitchell deal pretty much killed that.

That said, Bev might be the only person that can fire up Westbrook. Though he is probably equally likely to start a fistfight with him. Otherwise, if the plan was to marginalize THT and Stanley anyway and continue to pursue a Westbrook deal, it can't hurt.


If Kendrick Nunn (who hasn’t played a game in 15 months and has questions about his readiness even now) is closing games for us we are seriously screwed.


Even if we're talking late into the season? I don't think it's out of the question that there is a version of Kendrick Nunn that can close for us in certain situations. If so, there is some redundancy with PatBev. That said, one is injured often and the other coming off a major injury so it is a luxury to have both.


Unless he’s seriously cooking I just would prefer to not play an undersized guy who isn’t a defender when we’ve got defensive options on the roster. I think the other guys are better fits playing off Bron/AD as well.


Who are the best 3 players around LeBron/AD that we currently have?


Westbrook
Nunn
Pat Bev


Car54, are you seriously going to omit Reaves from that group? I would start w/Reaves, then insert Beverley & preferably someone w/size would can play serious defense like (at least I hope) Brown jr.


Y’all overrating Reeves now. Lol I like the kid but he’s behind those guys


But the kid is just a consistent jumper, and a little stronger, from being a damn near perfect fit with AD & James. He's super intelligent, he's fearless, he's got decent handles, he's got size at 6'5, and he seldom makes mistakes, which is critical in tight games and the playoffs, and again imagine him coming back with a jumper.

We'll see but don't be surprised to find him closing a lot of games.


Yes but can we wait for it to happen before giving him flowers?


He can improve his jumper this year, which I think he will, but to the point of being "consistent"?. Probably not. But my original question was which three best players to play w/James & Davis?

What I was really asking is who are the best fits around those two that we have? No doubt Nunn, or maybe even Lonnie Walker IV, are better players right now than Reaves, but I'd still put him up there as a great, or better fit.

He actually led the entire league in taking charges for an entire month. We got him for nothing and yet I'd play him more frequently that a 47mil player who doesn't "get it".
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:03 pm    Post subject:

Get a room you 2! 🫣

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:22 am    Post subject:

We're talking basketball and facts. What are you talking about with the snide comment? You typically add something useful to the topic. Please continue to do so.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:53 am    Post subject:

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We're talking basketball and facts. What are you talking about with the snide comment? You typically add something useful to the topic. Please continue to do so.


I could see how you confused it haha. I wasn’t referencing the exchange between you and @Car. I just ran into that Spectrum vid between Brodie and Bev and wanted to share it here.

Hope you understand
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:01 am    Post subject:

What do you guys think about the backcourt of Beverly and Reeves?

I can see how this backcourt as being undersized but as Caruso has taught high defensive IQ can make up for lack of size
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:21 am    Post subject:

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What do you guys think about the backcourt of Beverly and Reeves?

I can see how this backcourt as being undersized but as Caruso has taught high defensive IQ can make up for lack of size


I think Reeves is a nice solid rotation player, not a starter. Beverly may provide the defensive energy and attitude the Lakers desperately need. But in limited doses, not a starter. I expect both to have key roles this year.

Yet both will likely get multiple starts throughout the season due to matchups and necessity. With or without WB this team is full of nice role players, problem is they only have a couple of legitimate starters.

Maybe some excel and Ham gets it to work.
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We're talking basketball and facts. What are you talking about with the snide comment? You typically add something useful to the topic. Please continue to do so.


I could see how you confused it haha. I wasn’t referencing the exchange between you and @Car. I just ran into that Spectrum vid between Brodie and Bev and wanted to share it here.

Hope you understand


I more than understand

Now, on the interaction between those two: that "dime" RW threw at their press conference at Beverley was a great gesture, but I sure would like to be a fly on the wall when they have their first "hard" talk as Beverley described it.

I want to hear their raw exchange about bitter comments directed toward each other in the past. They do need to clear the air man to man, something Shaquille O'Neal was never good at according to his legendary team mate KB.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:30 pm    Post subject:

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What do you guys think about the backcourt of Beverly and Reeves?

I can see how this backcourt as being undersized but as Caruso has taught high defensive IQ can make up for lack of size


I think Reeves is a nice solid rotation player, not a starter. Beverly may provide the defensive energy and attitude the Lakers desperately need. But in limited doses, not a starter. I expect both to have key roles this year.

Yet both will likely get multiple starts throughout the season due to matchups and necessity. With or without WB this team is full of nice role players, problem is they only have a couple of legitimate starters.

Maybe some excel and Ham gets it to work.


True, but the poster asked what did we think of Reaves/Beverley as a combo, not as starters. To answer that question, I like it because they set a tone defensively that we need. If they shoot at a decent % they'll be good to very good together.

Otherwise, I agree with practically everything you posted.

What we need most is a monster defensive year from AD!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:11 am    Post subject:

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I’m so excited to have him on our team. He is exactly what we need in more ways than one. He will be a fan fave no doubt.


Well, lets not overdo it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:17 am    Post subject:

I’m so excited to have him on our team. He is exactly what we need in more ways than one. He will be a fan fave no doubt. tellculvers com survey taco bell breakfast hours

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:41 am    Post subject:

Training camp about 2 weeks away. WB still with the team.

So my guess is they will run some Bev at the 1 defensively, WB at the 2 lineups. On offense switch it up.

Bev has started almost all his games last 5-6 years, and WB has been a career starter. Both guys are very hard headed.

Has anyone asked Bev about coming off the bench?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:53 am    Post subject:

I would feel a lot better about this team if they started Bev/Reaves, and let Russ run the 2nd unit when LBJ sits. It may not happen due to politics, but Ham did stress that defense will determine whether Russ starts and that has been among his weakest traits.

I just hope it won't take Ham long to realize that Bev is the much superior 3/D fit over Russ. I don't want to see Russ guarding SGs off ball as he is too much of a ball watcher and guys will be open at the corner while Russ waits at the dunker's spot for a rebound.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:12 am    Post subject:

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I would feel a lot better about this team if they started Bev/Reaves, and let Russ run the 2nd unit when LBJ sits. It may not happen due to politics, but Ham did stress that defense will determine whether Russ starts and that has been among his weakest traits.

I just hope it won't take Ham long to realize that Bev is the much superior 3/D fit over Russ. I don't want to see Russ guarding SGs off ball as he is too much of a ball watcher and guys will be open at the corner while Russ waits at the dunker's spot for a rebound.

What's the word though, is Bev or WB or both starting? Surely they have an idea.
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