Why are we so bad at open 3's?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:19 pm    Post subject: Why are we so bad at open 3's?

We complain about it, joke that a player's 3 ball dies here..but what's the reason we aren't better from outside? I get that bad shooters aren't going to increase dramatically just from being open, but is it coaching? Pressure? Practice?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:31 pm    Post subject:

Because most of our salary is going to non shooters

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:35 pm    Post subject:

It's because they expend so much energy on the defensive side.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:37 pm    Post subject:

Interesting article from the Ringer:

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But today, I come not to pile on to the Lakers’ heap of misery. (Well, other than reciting all those sorry stats to set the scene.) Rather, I come to offer positive glimmers for Lakers fans. Because hiding under the grim surface stats, there are hints for hope in a coming turnaround. Here are five reasons to expect the Lakers’ offensive performance to improve, as well as a look at what this anticipated boost might mean for the team’s ultimate fortunes.

1. They have an excellent shot profile.

Especially this early in a new season, I like to look at a team’s process more than its results. The former is more under a team’s control; the latter is subject to all sorts of small-sample flukes. And according to Second Spectrum’s shot-quality model, which estimates the expected effective field goal percentage of every shot based on factors like location and defender distance, the Lakers have the best shot profile in the league.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:46 pm    Post subject:

No shooters...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:03 pm    Post subject:

Matt Ryan read this post.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:07 pm    Post subject:

Lonnie
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That be enough back court shooting to open up the court?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:59 pm    Post subject:

Cuz they're tired from defending
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:18 am    Post subject:

Because bricking is contagious and we have a brick on our team.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:08 am    Post subject:

We are not the only team that defends. We have bad shooters.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:58 pm    Post subject:

The opponents are terrible at them too so maybe it’s something in the air.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:30 pm    Post subject:

bluehill wrote:
Interesting article from the Ringer:

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But today, I come not to pile on to the Lakers’ heap of misery. (Well, other than reciting all those sorry stats to set the scene.) Rather, I come to offer positive glimmers for Lakers fans. Because hiding under the grim surface stats, there are hints for hope in a coming turnaround. Here are five reasons to expect the Lakers’ offensive performance to improve, as well as a look at what this anticipated boost might mean for the team’s ultimate fortunes.

1. They have an excellent shot profile.

Especially this early in a new season, I like to look at a team’s process more than its results. The former is more under a team’s control; the latter is subject to all sorts of small-sample flukes. And according to Second Spectrum’s shot-quality model, which estimates the expected effective field goal percentage of every shot based on factors like location and defender distance, the Lakers have the best shot profile in the league.


This reminds me of the line, "There's a reason why you're always wide open."
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:51 am    Post subject:

Quick glance at the stats ...

Seems to actually be Lebron ... he's been the vol three pt shooter on the team with most 3PA in the season so far while shooting at career low of 22% (12/53). He ended last season with about 36%. If he had maintained that, Lakers as a team would average about 30% right now, instead of 27%.

No one else is helping, obviously. Russ is 5/24 (21%) and Pat Bev is 4/21 (19%). The next vol shooter behind LeBron is Walker, at a slightly better 12/53 (30%).

But I trust LeBron to figure it out sooner than later. Hopefully rest of the team will follow.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:23 am    Post subject:

We made 3s
Still lost
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:25 am    Post subject:

Bad at wide open 3’s?

Do you mean making them or defending them. Both are an issue.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:44 am    Post subject:

A. Put on a Laker uniform
B. Drop your 3pt percentage by 10-15%

Or

A. You’re Rob Pelinka
B. Proceed to make baffling moves year after year.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:04 pm    Post subject:

The last 7 games of November, the Lakers have been shooting 35% from 3. The Lakers started out so bad at 3s that they're still at 30% and last in the league.

Glad the shooting is picking up.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:59 am    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
The last 7 games of November, the Lakers have been shooting 35% from 3. The Lakers started out so bad at 3s that they're still at 30% and last in the league.

Glad the shooting is picking up.


We need the leaders to start knocking down their 3s. Westbrook has, AD doesn't shoot 3s but LeBron hasn't. I think if the top guys making it, the role players would follow
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:05 am    Post subject:

I guarantee that if Curry put on a Laker uniform, his 3pt% would drop 10% points.

There’s definitely something about being a Laker, making players worse shooters. Whether it’s anything to do with the arena itself, pressure from being a Laker (kinda like pressure of being a Yankee in baseball. Kenny Rogers is the poster boy example of this), or both.

Some players can handle it, others can’t.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:33 pm    Post subject:

South Bay team is 0-17 so far tonight. Nobody to promote either?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:03 am    Post subject:

To me, it looks like the outside shooting is picking up
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:05 am    Post subject:

nevitt_smrek wrote:
South Bay team is 0-17 so far tonight. Nobody to promote either?


What happened to Swider Man Into The Swiderverse?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:28 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
The last 7 games of November, the Lakers have been shooting 35% from 3. The Lakers started out so bad at 3s that they're still at 30% and last in the league.

Glad the shooting is picking up.


And it continues

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LAL, who started the season so cold from the perimeter, are shooting 37.1% from 3 in the last 10 games, led by:

- Lonnie Walker IV: 46.9%
- LeBron: 46.8% (6 games)
- Austin Reaves:46.7%
- Davis: 45.5%
- Wenyen Gabriel: 44.4%
- Troy Brown Jr.: 42.1%

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:08 pm    Post subject:

Those numbers will drop like crazy lol

We played San Antonio 3 times, DET, etc


But we are playing better
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