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Four Decade Bandwagon
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Disappointing loss. Thought they might just pull off the win. Oh well.
Too many lapses and lost possessions from the beginning.
Lakers are the the epitome of the old saying “ bad teams find a way to lose”.
On to the next game. |
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Brawn13
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| LakersPimp wrote: | | Not happy with this loss.... we've had too many of these...when you talk about goat...u think about these type of games...and the players who consistently will their teams to wins... |
No 38 year old is willing their teams to victory on a consistent basis (especially as a 1st option)
Lebrons whole body of work determines his goat status…not some regular season games in his 20th season. His legacy is set, we’ve seen the majority of his career (not saying he is or isn’t the GOAT) Hes a year or 2 away from retirement, he has nothing to prove anymore. |
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levon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | Disappointing loss. Thought they might just pull off the win. Oh well.
Too many lapses and lost possessions from the beginning.
Lakers are the the epitome of the old saying “ bad teams find a way to lose”.
On to the next game. |
I mean, to be fair, we're down 4 starters. |
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Polarbear
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | How do you stand to feet away and not call that fouled to send Troy Brown to the free throw line to win the game?
How do you not call an obvious foul on LeBron under the basket that’s why he stop driving to the basket at the end of the game because the referees weren’t calling the obvious fouls |
Agree on the brown three.
Bron didn’t get fouled on that drive at the end of OT. It was a clean block.
If anything he should’ve hit the floater |
They even showed the replays of it you can plainly see that LeBron gets hit on the arm. What the (bleep) are you watching? |
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levon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't he say this after that first Portland game too? |
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | Disappointing loss. Thought they might just pull off the win. Oh well.
Too many lapses and lost possessions from the beginning.
Lakers are the the epitome of the old saying “ bad teams find a way to lose”.
On to the next game. |
Don’t you mean bad teams missing for starters coming off of winning five games in a row something like that
They could’ve quit when they went down by almost 20 in the first quarter. They battled back to take the lead they should have won the game if the refs would’ve done their job. |
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| levon wrote: |
Didn't he say this after that first Portland game too? |
LG keeping receipts!  |
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | LakersPimp wrote: | | Not happy with this loss.... we've had too many of these...when you talk about goat...u think about these type of games...and the players who consistently will their teams to wins... |
No 38 year old is willing their teams to victory on a consistent basis (especially as a 1st option)
Lebrons whole body of work determines his goat status…not some regular season games in his 20th season. His legacy is set, we’ve seen the majority of his career (not saying he is or isn’t the GOAT) Hes a year or 2 away from retirement, he has nothing to prove anymore. |
We were in trouble as soon as the game went into overtime because LeBron is a spending too much energy trying to keep the team afloat with all of these injuries. It is a testament to the team that they took it to two overtimes, and with a little ref help, the Mavs were able to pull it out. |
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miggz23
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How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Polarbear wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | How do you stand to feet away and not call that fouled to send Troy Brown to the free throw line to win the game?
How do you not call an obvious foul on LeBron under the basket that’s why he stop driving to the basket at the end of the game because the referees weren’t calling the obvious fouls |
Agree on the brown three.
Bron didn’t get fouled on that drive at the end of OT. It was a clean block.
If anything he should’ve hit the floater |
They even showed the replays of it you can plainly see that LeBron gets hit on the arm. What the (bleep) are you watching? |
https://twitter.com/clutchpointsapp/status/1613774513711513603?s=46&t=sqVy-A5JZzAEniVlZsq9vw
I thought Woods elbow hitting lebron on the way up was incidental contact.
With the way they weren’t calling anything the whole game I see why they didn’t call it.
But anways what the hell is your problem cussing at me? All I said was i didn’t think it was a foul. Don’t let your frustration at a game make you act like a (bleep) towards me. We’re all on the same side here. |
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | How do you stand to feet away and not call that fouled to send Troy Brown to the free throw line to win the game?
How do you not call an obvious foul on LeBron under the basket that’s why he stop driving to the basket at the end of the game because the referees weren’t calling the obvious fouls |
Agree on the brown three.
Bron didn’t get fouled on that drive at the end of OT. It was a clean block.
If anything he should’ve hit the floater |
They even showed the replays of it you can plainly see that LeBron gets hit on the arm. What the (bleep) are you watching? |
https://twitter.com/clutchpointsapp/status/1613774513711513603?s=46&t=sqVy-A5JZzAEniVlZsq9vw
I thought Woods elbow hitting lebron on the way up was incidental contact.
With the way they weren’t calling anything the whole game I see why they didn’t call it.
But anways what the hell is your problem cussing at me? All I said was i didn’t think it was a foul. Don’t let your frustrating at a game act like a (bleep) towards me. We’re all on the same side here. |
Just because the refs are refusing to call contact to put the Lakers at the line, doesn’t make it not a foul that means that the refs are making a bad call
By the way, yes I’m extremely frustrated. Shouldn’t be taking it out on you.
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Killer_Z
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| We only had 9 turnovers. Wow. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | How do you stand to feet away and not call that fouled to send Troy Brown to the free throw line to win the game?
How do you not call an obvious foul on LeBron under the basket that’s why he stop driving to the basket at the end of the game because the referees weren’t calling the obvious fouls |
Agree on the brown three.
Bron didn’t get fouled on that drive at the end of OT. It was a clean block.
If anything he should’ve hit the floater |
They even showed the replays of it you can plainly see that LeBron gets hit on the arm. What the (bleep) are you watching? |
https://twitter.com/clutchpointsapp/status/1613774513711513603?s=46&t=sqVy-A5JZzAEniVlZsq9vw
I thought Woods elbow hitting lebron on the way up was incidental contact.
With the way they weren’t calling anything the whole game I see why they didn’t call it.
But anways what the hell is your problem cussing at me? All I said was i didn’t think it was a foul. Don’t let your frustrating at a game act like a (bleep) towards me. We’re all on the same side here. |
Just because the refs are refusing to call contact to put the Lakers at the line, doesn’t make it a foul that means that the refs are making a bad call |
Ok I respect your opinion on it and agree to disagree.
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Brawn13
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| Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
Perfect no…but if us keyboard coaches can see what should be happening, then it’s inexcusable for someone being paid millions to not see it too |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
I don't expect it to be perfect... But I do expect some common sense coaching from a NBA coaches. We been losing this type of games all year. You would just think he would show some type of adjustments. |
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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We lost this game in my opinion, because of the scoring droit we had in the first half
Is it really going to be that hard to bring in one more guy that is a point generator to help us through this?
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
I don't expect it to be perfect... But I do expect some common sense coaching from a NBA coaches. We been losing this type of games all year. You would just think he would show some type of adjustments. |
Let’s look at this from a realistic standpoint. If you start over playing Luca he’s just gonna throw the ball to somebody else like Dinwiddie.
We’re outgunned right now, literally four starters missing if you wanna get on him about one play in a particular game, then recognize all of the good coaching that he’s doing around it |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
I don't expect it to be perfect... But I do expect some common sense coaching from a NBA coaches. We been losing this type of games all year. You would just think he would show some type of adjustments. |
Let’s look at this from a realistic standpoint. If you start over playing Luca he’s just gonna throw the ball to somebody else like Dinwiddie.
We’re outgunned right now, literally four starters missing if you wanna get on him about one play in a particular game, then recognize all of the good coaching that he’s doing around it |
Apparently it does not really matter what he does early in the game on a close loss game. He will be judged on what he did or not do during the closing minutes. That goes the same for players too.
There are clutch players, and clutch coaches... Ham has shown that his not there yet. I blame the end of regulation on him... I blame the OT on players. But it's been clear that he relies a ton on a 38yo Lebron to bail him out on tight situations. Lebron has not done that this season.
Ham had a chance to close out this game by making one right call. Lebron/TBJ had a chance to win it. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Bron a bit snippy in his post game. And blaming things on injuries and the lineup changes. Hmm
Welp. Gotta work tomorrow so... zzzZZZ |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Up 3 end of regulation... Mavs had no timeouts... Why not foul? |
And why let Luka take the last shot? If Christian wood can make an open 3, I will live with it. Just have Wenyen double LukA… |
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Brawn13
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
I don't expect it to be perfect... But I do expect some common sense coaching from a NBA coaches. We been losing this type of games all year. You would just think he would show some type of adjustments. |
Let’s look at this from a realistic standpoint. If you start over playing Luca he’s just gonna throw the ball to somebody else like Dinwiddie.
We’re outgunned right now, literally four starters missing if you wanna get on him about one play in a particular game, then recognize all of the good coaching that he’s doing around it |
Ham had a chance to close out this game by making one right call. Lebron/TBJ had a chance to win it. |
Ham missed 3 golden opportunities. Calling a timeout when their center goes down with an ankle injury? Smh
He blew it by letting Luka shoot a 3 at the end of the 4th quarter…and we find ourselves in the same exact scenario literally 5 minutes later and still doesn’t make an adjustment….another Luka 3. That’s just inexcusable. I get maybe the first time, but anyone with half a brain should’ve realized that letting Luka shoot a game tying shot isn’t ideal…minutes after he made one previously lol |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
How many more learning experience before he actually learns?... |
Well, he is a rookie head coach. Do you expect it to be perfect? |
I don't expect it to be perfect... But I do expect some common sense coaching from a NBA coaches. We been losing this type of games all year. You would just think he would show some type of adjustments. |
Let’s look at this from a realistic standpoint. If you start over playing Luca he’s just gonna throw the ball to somebody else like Dinwiddie.
We’re outgunned right now, literally four starters missing if you wanna get on him about one play in a particular game, then recognize all of the good coaching that he’s doing around it |
Ham had a chance to close out this game by making one right call. Lebron/TBJ had a chance to win it. |
Ham missed 3 golden opportunities. Calling a timeout when their center goes down with an ankle injury? Smh
He blew it by letting Luka shoot a 3 at the end of the 4th quarter…and we find ourselves in the same exact scenario literally 5 minutes later and still doesn’t make an adjustment….another Luka 3. That’s just inexcusable. I get maybe the first time, but anyone with half a brain should’ve realized that letting Luka shoot a game tying shot isn’t ideal…minutes after he made one previously lol |
I can see why Ham did not foul on that 2nd 3 as there was still 45+ secs left on the game clock... I don't know any coach who fouls up 3 with that much time left.
But my question on both game tying 3s... Why did Ham not double Luka during that time. Also both Scho/TBJ bit hard on Luka's drive when they both knew he was going to take a 3 at that point. If he drives then let him drive. You only surrendering 2. |
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| I had a feeling once it went to OT we weren't going to win. We don't run good offense; even when Lebron was doubled I noticed it didn't lead to open shots. Luka gets doubled, someone is wide open. Of course shooting woes showed up again: we shot 39% and 24% from 3 (yet we took 41 threes!!). Lebron and Schroder were 0-13 from 3. Ugly. After a string of really good games, Schroder is 6-26 last 2 games, and 0-11 from 3. |
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