How far under .500 will we be after the next 24 games (Pelicans)?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:49 pm    Post subject:

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leking006 wrote:
vs Kings Winnable
vs Grizzlies Winnable
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Clippers Winnable
vs Spurs (B2B) W
@ Celtics Winnable
@ Nets W
@ Knicks Winnable
@ Pacers W
@ Pelicans Winnable
vs Thunder W
vs Bucks L
@ Warriors Winnable
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Pelicans Winnable
vs Warriors Winnable
@ Mavericks Winnable
@ Grizzlies Winnable
@ Thunder (B2B) W
vs Timberwolves W
vs Warriors Winnable
vs Grizzlies Winnable
vs Raptors W
vs Knicks Winnable
@ Pelicans Winnable

This is not the same Lakers that started the season.
If not for the refs mistake on Mavs and Sixers they could have been inside the top 10 already and enjoying a 3 game winning streak.
I think they have 50% chance on Winnables and 75% on W.

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but I think they will be better assuming Bron will continue how he is playing currently and AD returns. Don't worry about B2B, Bron will play the 2nd game of B2B specially against weak teams.


You seem confident, actually way over confident for a team who is 4 games below 500 and are as inconsistent as the bottom feeders in the NBA


they are 18-14 last 32 games and could have been 20-12 if not for that f by refs on mavs and sixers. And most of those games are without AD. What are you smoking?


It’s gonna take a lot for us to come away successful in this stretch, maybe we get 9-10 wins but I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up worse


It all boils down oh how Bron will play. If Bron will continue his aggressiveness on the offensive end like what he is currently doing, they have a big chance winning the game no matter whom they up against. Knowing Bron he will continue to be like that for the rest of the season barring injury.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:50 pm    Post subject:

We also need Bryant and Schroeder to step up, they have looked gassed and completely out of it
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:03 pm    Post subject:

The question here is can Bron stay healthy for the rest of the season? Coz as long as he stay heathy he will play like what he is doing now. For 2 seasons now he always comes out smoking around January then boom!, gets injured around all star break. Hoping it's a different story this time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:09 pm    Post subject:

Treble Clef wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
leking006 wrote:
vs Kings Winnable
vs Grizzlies Winnable
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Clippers Winnable
vs Spurs (B2B) W
@ Celtics Winnable
@ Nets W
@ Knicks Winnable
@ Pacers W
@ Pelicans Winnable
vs Thunder W
vs Bucks L
@ Warriors Winnable
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Pelicans Winnable
vs Warriors Winnable
@ Mavericks Winnable
@ Grizzlies Winnable
@ Thunder (B2B) W
vs Timberwolves W
vs Warriors Winnable
vs Grizzlies Winnable
vs Raptors W
vs Knicks Winnable
@ Pelicans Winnable

This is not the same Lakers that started the season.
If not for the refs mistake on Mavs and Sixers they could have been inside the top 10 already and enjoying a 3 game winning streak.
I think they have 50% chance on Winnables and 75% on W.

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but I think they will be better assuming Bron will continue how he is playing currently and AD returns. Don't worry about B2B, Bron will play the 2nd game of B2B specially against weak teams.


You seem confident, actually way over confident for a team who is 4 games below 500 and are as inconsistent as the bottom feeders in the NBA


Almost every game they’ve played this season has been winnable. It’s very rare that they have a game where they look overmatched or the other team is just on fire. No matter who they play, they’re going to be in a close game in the 4th quarter.


I still don't think they reach .500 by end of season (currently 20-24 and would have to go 21-17 to do so) but I am coming around to this line of thinking.

POSITIVE OUTLOOK
If AD comes back and beasts again immediately + LBJ does not have his annual injury 10-15 games from now when he passes Kareem, they are now starting to play like a 7-8 seed and with AD+LBJ at least have a puncher's chance in playoffs.

NEGATIVE OUTLOOK
If AD comes back in late (like late Feb or early March) and/or is out of sorts for a while (which is likely) + If history holds and LBJ only plays 23 more games maximum in RS, this is a borderline play-in team that will easily get bounced.

So, barring a trade that improves them or AD coming back beasting, I'll go somewhere in the middle and say that LBJ wins 11-13 of these games in the stretch you outlined. Those last 10-13 games are going to be crutical.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:23 pm    Post subject:

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We're gonna have AD for 18+ games on this stretch right? They better be over .500. There aren't many games left afterwards.


That is quite the assumption regarding AD, there is no timetable for his return. As for these 25 games, I agree with JC that we win 9-10 of these games.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:37 pm    Post subject:

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We're gonna have AD for 18+ games on this stretch right? They better be over .500. There aren't many games left afterwards.


That is quite the assumption regarding AD, there is no timetable for his return. As for these 25 games, I agree with JC that we win 9-10 of these games.


Man, I’m happy with these 0.500 stuff without AD but deep down I feel like it’s not enough
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:40 pm    Post subject:

Factors

Lakers play many of their remaining games at home

With the Dubs, Clips, Suns and TWolves currently having injury issues, Lakers have excellent opportunities to move up in the standings

Mavs are one major injury away from having issues

Ain’t it great that most predictions will be proven wrong in a season filled with continuing surprises - that’s why they play the games!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Am I wrong to predict a Lakers 1-24 losing streak coming up?

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vs Kings -L (Kings on a 4 game win strk)
vs Grizzlies - L (Griz are just better than us)
vs Trail Blazers - L (Dame has our number, period)
vs Clippers - L (Clips are 30-7 against us)
vs Spurs - W (Spurs are trouble, but we should win this one)
vs Celtics - L (Celts are the best team in the East)
vs Nets - L (Nets are the 2nd best team in the East)
vs Knicks - L/W (Knicks always play us tough, but this may be win)
vs Pacers - L/W (not sure about this one. Can go either way)
vs Pelicans - L (Pelicans are the better team)
vs Thunder - L (Thunder have been playing well lately)
vs Bucks - L (Bucks will be looking for revenge)
vs Warriors - L (Can't overcome their perimeter shooters)
vs Trail Blazers L/W (Dame again, although we may steal this one)
vs Pelicans L (We'll be too dejected based on all the recent losses)
vs Warriors - L (Kareem's scoring record will be a big distraction)
vs Mavericks - L/W (can go either way, but I suspect a loss)
vs Grizzlies - L (Griz the better team still)
vs Thunder - W (Okay, I think we get this one)
vs Timberwolves - L/W (riding high after beating the Thunder)
vs Warriors - L (Still can't stop the Splash Trio)
vs Grizzlies - L (Griz just want to hit the nail in our coffin)
vs Raptors - L (Lakers will be in turmoil by this time)
vs Knicks - W (A last gasp win)
vs Pelicans - L (Pels may be at full strength by then)


4-21 is my most optimistic take.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:05 pm    Post subject:

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dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
We're gonna have AD for 18+ games on this stretch right? They better be over .500. There aren't many games left afterwards.


That is quite the assumption regarding AD, there is no timetable for his return. As for these 25 games, I agree with JC that we win 9-10 of these games.



ESPN played an interview after I posted this. It seems like they’ve been saying “AD is going to test running this week” for about 10 days now. Not sure if he actually started.

Looks like best case is AD missing about 12 more games. We have 15 before the all-star break give-or-take, and AD wants to come back before then so he can play in the ASG.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:19 pm    Post subject:

That's honestly an insane prediction that would be bold for any team at all. Stretches that (bleep) are pretty rare. A 20-game losing streak puts you in the top 9 all-time for the NBA, and you're up there with the Grizzlies in their expansion season, a bunch of teams like the "process" 76ers that were trying to lose, and some historically (bleep) runs from teams like the early 80s Pistons and Cavs that made really bad trades to deplete their rosters and then suffered injuries to their only good players. Not like the current Lakers, but more like the current Hornets but subtract LaMelo Ball.

You can't just look at a bunch of matchups on paper like this and say "oh, this team is playing better." The Lakers already had about the worst-case scenario possible when every single guy on the team was basically shooting ten points below their career average and they started 2-11. Even in that stretch, they still beat the Nuggets and Pelicans for their only two wins, both teams you would have said were better and probably are better. Basketball is fluky. (bleep) teams still win sometimes.

The flip side of that is they may very well beat the Celtics, Nets, and Bucks and I still wouldn't get too excited. Remove the first month and I think you get a better representation of the true team. They're not really sub-.500 in terms of roster quality. But they're not a contender, either. Healthy and playing basically at expectation, they should be fighting for a 6 seed or so. Probably a first-round bounce even when all goes well, but they're not historically bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:21 pm    Post subject:

Yeah cause that one win would not make it a losing streak.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:07 pm    Post subject:

Fam come on now...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:30 pm    Post subject:

dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
We're gonna have AD for 18+ games on this stretch right? They better be over .500. There aren't many games left afterwards.


That is quite the assumption regarding AD, there is no timetable for his return. As for these 25 games, I agree with JC that we win 9-10 of these games.



ESPN played an interview after I posted this. It seems like they’ve been saying “AD is going to test running this week” for about 10 days now. Not sure if he actually started.

Looks like best case is AD missing about 12 more games. We have 15 before the all-star break give-or-take, and AD wants to come back before then so he can play in the ASG.


Yeah, that really pisses me off.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Am I wrong to predict a Lakers 1-24 losing streak coming up?

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vs Kings W
vs Grizzlies W
@ Trail Blazers L
vs Clippers W
vs Spurs (B2B) L
@ Celtics W
@ Nets L
@ Knicks W
@ Pacers L
@ Pelicans L
vs Thunder W
vs Bucks L
@ Warriors L
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Pelicans W
vs Warriors W
@ Mavericks W
@ Grizzlies L
@ Thunder (B2B) L
vs Timberwolves W
vs Warriors W
vs Grizzlies L
vs Raptors W
vs Knicks W
@ Pelicans W

15-10
I’m calling it


Hey, off to a great start…
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:38 pm    Post subject:

Looking at the schedule our only win might be against SA, pretty sad but it’s the truth, LeBron is gonna get worn out, our back court isn’t productive during most of the games, it’s gonna be up to Davis to turn this thing around
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:22 am    Post subject:

The team isn’t going to be 1-24. Or close to it. The likelihood is that they are below .500 through the next 14 going into the all star break though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:55 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
The team isn’t going to be 1-24. Or close to it. The likelihood is that they are below .500 through the next 14 going into the all star break though.


Omar, based on our next 24 games, and in your opinion, how far under .500 do you think the Lakers will be by the time we reach that game against the Pelicans? Lakers are currently 5 games under .500.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:58 am    Post subject:

We couldn't beat the Kings at home despite Lebron going for 32, 8, 9. Look at who we play our next 24 games...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:02 pm    Post subject:

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We couldn't beat the Kings at home despite Lebron going for 32, 8, 9. Look at who we play our next 24 games...


Sacramento is third in the Western Conference and riding a five game winning streak.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:07 pm    Post subject:

i am afraid this team will break soon. they've shown some resiliency all year, every time they were in a hole, they dug out of it, and then comes injuries and close game losses on some dumb play or non-call. AD is at least 10-15 games away, and i am not sure it will matter by the time he is back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:41 pm    Post subject:

11 games under .500 before the pelicans game is my guess
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:05 pm    Post subject:

way under.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:56 pm    Post subject:

Sadly I gave up caring, Lakers are not gonna make it to the playoff this year AND don't have a 1st round pick.

Best they could do at this point, is to make a side deal with NO, and get something for tanking - so they get a higher draft pick... lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:15 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
vs Kings Winnable
vs Grizzlies Winnable
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Clippers Winnable
vs Spurs (B2B) W
@ Celtics Winnable
@ Nets W
@ Knicks Winnable
@ Pacers W
@ Pelicans Winnable
vs Thunder W
vs Bucks L
@ Warriors Winnable
@ Trail Blazers W
vs Pelicans Winnable
vs Warriors Winnable
@ Mavericks Winnable
@ Grizzlies Winnable
@ Thunder (B2B) W
vs Timberwolves W
vs Warriors Winnable
vs Grizzlies Winnable
vs Raptors W
vs Knicks Winnable
@ Pelicans Winnable

This is not the same Lakers that started the season. They are 18-14 the last 32 games and big part of it is they win even without AD.
If not for the refs mistake on Mavs and Sixers they could have been inside the top 10 already (22-22) and enjoying a 3 game winning streak.

I think they have 50% chance on Winnables and 75% on W.

14-11

but I think they will be better assuming Bron will continue how he is playing currently and AD returns. Don't worry about B2B, Bron will play the 2nd game of B2B specially against weak teams.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:17 pm    Post subject:

There are no scheduled losses with this team. Every game is winnable, it’s just a matter of the Lakers being consistent enough to capitalize.
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