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| DancingBarry wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | Still so pissed he spent half the season getting 20 minutes a game. Insanity. |
We'd have probably 5 more wins. |
The Lakers are 24-13 with Rui as a starter playing against a tough part of the schedule vs many of the top 6 seeds in both conferences. That win percentage (.647) protects to 6 more wins which would put the Lakers at 4th in the West.
If it is considered that the winning percentage would have been even higher during an easier part of the schedule since the win percentage was achieved vs the toughest part then perhaps there could have been 4 more earlier wins (I.e. Hou {Nov version not the good one now lol!}/SA/Mem/Chi) then the Lakers would be #1 top seed in the west had Rui started from the beginning. That’s a lot of ifs and wishful thinking lol! The point is that the record most likely would have been somewhere among the top 4 seeds had Ham not messed it up.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| He's a solid player. Seems humble too. I like him. |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | | Ham should be fired for handicapping us the first half of the season by treating Rui like a garbage time player |
The argument I heard was that they were unsure Rui could be consistent unlike Prince.
I actually believe that to be true, but he still should have started..he doesn't need to be consistent with other scorers on the court like LBJ/AD. Unlike Prince, he is more multidimensional he can drive to the basket, shoot 3s, and his midrange is killer. None of the other starters have midrange game like him so he makes the starting lineup more complete.
Plus with the size of LBJ/AD/Rui, you likely are going to have a size mismatch somewhere that you can go to for points when the offense is cold from deep. |
The only thing Prince was consistent at was being a net negative everytime he played.
Him playing 30 minutes a game for half the season is what screwed our place in the standings |
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Rui can be inconsistent when it comes to his effort on both ends. But when he's on he's REALLY on. He's a solid 16 PPG guy right now that can go off for 25-30. If we got him to commit consistently to the defensive end he'd be an even bigger nightmare. Phil Handy has done a great job of maximizing his strengths and continuing to develop him. He's one of the biggest X-Factors to our staff. Rui's 26 and still has ways to go for his prime and is to be honest now just entering it. If he had been with us since being drafted I can only imagine where he'd be. But the fact we got him was a STEAL considering how he's been developing so far!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | “Very comfortable,” James said of Hachimura’s play since Hachimura became the starting small forward on Feb. 3 in New York. “He knows where his shots are coming from. He knows he’s going to be on the floor. He knows he’s going to get minutes. … Gives us another big body, another athletic wing out there. When we downsize, a night like tonight, we had to play small at times, me and him, we can switch some things and still be able to clean glass, so he’s been very key for our success since he got here |
Lebron has spoken. Don't mess with Rui's role. Any minutes for Gabe need to come from Cam, Prince and Christie.
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Rui Hachimura prior to starting consistently (36 Games 7 Starts)
11.5 PPG
3.6 RPG
1.1 APG
0.3 BPG
0.8 SPG
49.2% Field Goal
39.8% Three Pointer(on 3.0 a game)
23.1 MPG
Rui Hachimura since becoming full time starter vs the Knicks (23 Games)
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
31.1 MPG
For the 4th-5th option in the starting lineup, that is VERY solid.
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| MJST wrote: | Rui Hachimura prior to starting consistently (36 Games 7 Starts)
11.5 PPG
3.6 RPG
1.1 APG
0.3 BPG
0.8 SPG
49.2% Field Goal
39.8% Three Pointer(on 3.0 a game)
23.1 MPG
Rui Hachimura since becoming full time starter vs the Knicks (23 Games)
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
31.1 MPG
For the 4th-5th option in the starting lineup, that is VERY solid. |
Simply put, we need DLo-AR-Rui to produce at the same level as Gordon-MPJ-KCP, on both ends
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | ...
Rui Hachimura since becoming full time starter vs the Knicks (23 Games)
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
31.1 MPG
For the 4th-5th option in the starting lineup, that is VERY solid. |
 59% FG is Shaq territory ...
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Buck32 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | ...
Rui Hachimura since becoming full time starter vs the Knicks (23 Games)
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
31.1 MPG
For the 4th-5th option in the starting lineup, that is VERY solid. |
59% FG is Shaq territory ... |
I am really liking the 3's he's knocking down. I remember one of the announcers said last night that Rui has something against the Grizzlies... LMAO
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To be honest, everyone has done well with with the move thus far.
These are everyone of the starter's stats since Rui became a full-time starter.
D'Angelo Russell
20.9 PPG
3.8 RPG
6.7 APG
0.4 BPG
1.0 SPG
45.5% Field Goal
43.6% Three Pointer(on 8.5 a game)
35.6 MPG
Austin Reaves
17.3 PPG
5.0 RPG
6.6 APG
0.6 BPG
0.6 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
35.1 MPG
Rui Hachimura
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
49.1% Field Goal
39.8% Three Pointer(on 5.8 a game)
35.1 MPG
LeBron James
26.4 PPG
6.8 RPG
9.2 APG
0.6 BPG
1.0 SPG
55.3% Field Goal
42.4% Three Pointer(on 4.8 a game)
36.3 MPG
Anthony Davis
24.2 PPG
13.9 RPG
3.5 APG
2.5 BPG
1.3 SPG
55.1% Field Goal
25.0% Three Pointer(on 1.6 a game)
35.8 MPG
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| MJST wrote: | To be honest, everyone has done well with with the move thus far.
These are everyone of the starter's stats since Rui became a full-time starter.
D'Angelo Russell
20.9 PPG
3.8 RPG
6.7 APG
0.4 BPG
1.0 SPG
45.5% Field Goal
43.6% Three Pointer(on 8.5 a game)
35.6 MPG
Austin Reaves
17.3 PPG
5.0 RPG
6.6 APG
0.6 BPG
0.6 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
35.1 MPG
Rui Hachimura
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
49.1% Field Goal
39.8% Three Pointer(on 5.8 a game)
35.1 MPG
LeBron James
26.4 PPG
6.8 RPG
9.2 APG
0.6 BPG
1.0 SPG
55.3% Field Goal
42.4% Three Pointer(on 4.8 a game)
36.3 MPG
Anthony Davis
24.2 PPG
13.9 RPG
3.5 APG
2.5 BPG
1.3 SPG
55.1% Field Goal
25.0% Three Pointer(on 1.6 a game)
35.8 MPG |
This gives me hope, plus we’ll have defensive aces backing them up, Vando, Cam, Dinwiddie, Max, Gabe soon, maybe even a Dwight (sign him Jeannie!)
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| This kid is getting better. He's strong as a bull, usually bullies the defender |
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| danzag wrote: | | This kid is getting better. He's strong as a bull, usually bullies the defender |
He does, his drives to the basket is similar to Bron (current Bron, not high flying Bron)
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| Run is a finished product after playing Nuggets last year. He work hard in the summer andi is even better this year. Glad he is healthy when we need him. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| I was truly scared for the brains of fans who gave thought to trading Rui |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Rui Hachimura prior to starting consistently (36 Games 7 Starts)
11.5 PPG
3.6 RPG
1.1 APG
0.3 BPG
0.8 SPG
49.2% Field Goal
39.8% Three Pointer(on 3.0 a game)
23.1 MPG
Rui Hachimura since becoming full time starter vs the Knicks (23 Games)
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
31.1 MPG
For the 4th-5th option in the starting lineup, that is VERY solid. |
Tbh, I'm struggling to think of a 4th/5th option player that out produces Rui.
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Rui Hachimura prior to starting consistently (36 Games 7 Starts)
11.5 PPG
3.6 RPG
1.1 APG
0.3 BPG
0.8 SPG
49.2% Field Goal
39.8% Three Pointer(on 3.0 a game)
23.1 MPG
Rui Hachimura since becoming full time starter vs the Knicks (23 Games)
15.7 PPG
4.7 RPG
1.0 APG
0.5 BPG
0.4 SPG
59.4% Field Goal
45.3% Three Pointer(on 3.7 a game)
31.1 MPG
For the 4th-5th option in the starting lineup, that is VERY solid. |
Tbh, I'm struggling to think of a 4th/5th option player that out produces Rui. |
I was just trying to think of a way to mix their names into Miyagi and Daniel-san
and here is Master and Student
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1708911539733033376
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LeBron on Rui: “We’ve worked out together pretty much all summer … I see a lot in him. … I call him my Daniel-san and I’m Mr. Miyagi”
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | I was truly scared for the brains of fans who gave thought to trading Rui |
It depends on what you are getting back. There are over 30 players in the league I would trade him for, depending on the remainder of the deal.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | I was truly scared for the brains of fans who gave thought to trading Rui |
It depends on what you are getting back. There are over 30 players in the league I would trade him for, depending on the remainder of the deal. |
U would cause u Jeanie reject clippers fan |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I think on the nights when our main guys have no legs, we should run offense through Rui.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Rui needs to grab some rebounds.
He had 0 last night and how big Rui is, that should never be.
That means he is giving absolutely no effort in that area. |
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| Outspoken wrote: | Rui needs to grab some rebounds.
He had 0 last night and how big Rui is, that should never be.
That means he is giving absolutely no effort in that area. |
Must have heard yah. 20 point 10 rebound game. We know he has it in him.
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| He's so good. And his shooting in the playoffs was no fluke. 17 a year is nothing for him. He reminds me of Tobias Harris. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | Rui needs to grab some rebounds.
He had 0 last night and how big Rui is, that should never be.
That means he is giving absolutely no effort in that area. |
Must have heard yah. 20 point 10 rebound game. We know he has it in him. |
He has 3 double doubles in the last 4 games… |
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