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KingKobe20
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| samnizam wrote: | | KingKobe20 wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | | TMG wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | Bring Vogel back ….cmn he sucked
And as far lue what the hell he accomplished so far.
Same with Quinn nothing.
Give me a break |
Are you Ham's kid or something? |
No I’m logical… when fan acts like experts. I have been watching the lakers for over 30 years and I’m not an expert. Nor I love the lakers more than 5he boss family.
No coach is perfect.. how San Antonio doing this year with hall of fame coach…. |
Most of us are being logical.
Darvin playing russ or lonnie at small forward is not going to give us the advantage on most nights.
its pretty much common sense and fwiw I've watched basketball for 30 years too  |
Have you considered to be a coach. |
One second you tell me well said,
then the next you are breaking my balls
Take it easy man. It's pretty simple whenever we play big we normally get better results.
the only small ball lineup which has been decent is Dennis and Pat at our guards with LeBron, AD, Troy, Rui, or Thomas taking the other positions.
An even then most of the time Dennis and Pat were barely clawing to victory.
Going big helps LeBron and AD as well with their workload.
An yes I've coached many teams in the AAU circuit for my children and their traveling clubs including the world famous Compton Magic club.  |
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | Bring Vogel back ….cmn he sucked
And as far lue what the hell he accomplished so far.
Same with Quinn nothing.
Give me a break |
Don't want Vogel back but Ham is worse...that's what's being said. As for Lue, if you have to ask then you are not qualified to be in a conversation with NBA fans. Get a clue. |
Ham is the first year head coach
He’s learning on the job basically
Want to know how you become a really bad team for years switch out your head coach every other year |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Mins played
All 12 mins
Ad
Bron
Schroeder
11mins
Pat bev
Brown jr
This is the coach we have |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Batguano wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | LAKERMIKE2 wrote: | | Shoulda kept Vogel, Ham is a horrible coach!!! |
I hate to admit it because I felt Vogel needed to go...but if this is the replacement it was a downgrade. Should have hired Lue in the first place and got Griffith as President to help Pelinka since he didn't have experience as a GM.
I've been a fan for over 40 years so not used to winning just 1 championship but it looks like this group (owner, gm, coaches, players) got luck to get that one and won't get another.
We're probably have 10 years of misery and losing ahead of us fellas, and most likely have to have a change in ownership, GM, coach, and players to compete again...the LBJ/AD era is over...1 ship wasn't worth it based on what the team had.
Bryant Zubac
Randle Nance
Ingram Hart
Dlo Clarkson
Ball (Garland?)
Plus all other draft picks |
Lakers won “just” 1 championship in the 60’s/70’s when they had Jerry West and Elgin Baylor, and later they added Wilt Chamberlain. They won ZERO championships during the 90’s. Get a grip. |
Get a grip? How about you get some math skills and critical thinking skills? 40 years is the 80s...not 60's and 70's. Also it should have been obvious but since you were unable to perceive what was implied I'll spell it out for you:
During my time as a Laker fan since the 80's, when the Lakers build a championship team, I'm used to them winning more than 1, unlike the current team.
Is that simple enough? Did you get it? If so then you can see how anything before the 80's or years they didn't have a championship roster is not relevant and you missed the point by bringing up the 60's 70's and 90's.
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samnizam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | lakerican wrote: | | Rui played only 18 minutes and not a single one in BI. |
Horrible no excuse for a coach… Ham cost this team so many wins. |
The players did lose the game . Kobe would have won at least half of them. We don’t have a mamba (Closers) when we need a basket. lBJ is 38 yrs old…
Yes we need closer LBJ is not closer at this age. AD is not closer and the list goes on… That has nothing to do with coaching.
Basketball has changed.. you can’t rough players any more the system reward offense.
Finally I’m not a fan of hamm but the lakers has many problems.
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | Mins played
All 12 mins
Ad
Bron
Schroeder
11mins
Pat bev
Brown jr
This is the coach we have |
Imagine Pat or Dennis at point guard. One or the other.
Troy or Austin
LeBron
Rui or AD
AD or Thomas.
I know with this starting lineup they are worried it will get too congested on the offense. But honestly these guys are smart enough to create.
I'm picturing how lethal we could be defensively. Especially when Pat gets to clamp down on a point guard his size. BBQ CHICKEN for US! |
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lakerican
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| You know, people talking about Lue and that championship that was LeAwarded to him, people has really forgot how that really went down. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | Bring Vogel back ….cmn he sucked
And as far lue what the hell he accomplished so far.
Same with Quinn nothing.
Give me a break |
Don't want Vogel back but Ham is worse...that's what's being said. As for Lue, if you have to ask then you are not qualified to be in a conversation with NBA fans. Get a clue. |
Ham is the first year head coach
He’s learning on the job basically
Want to know how you become a really bad team for years switch out your head coach every other year |
And thats the problem  He's learning on the job. Unless he's the next Brad Stevens our window is incredibly short with a 38 year old Lebron. |
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samnizam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| The lakers players lack the Mamba mentality. The killer instinct… we need closer badly… every close game we lost because we have no closer period. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| samnizam wrote: | | The lakers players lack the Mamba mentality. The killer instinct… we need closer badly… every close game we lost because we have no closer period. |
We have bron. Statistically the best closer ever.
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| lakerican wrote: | | You know, people talking about Lue and that championship that was LeAwarded to him, people has really forgot how that really went down. |
LeBron chase down block on Iggy!
I remember watching it max volume with surround sound and the noise the ball made when it was obliterated off the glass was craaay |
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | | The lakers players lack the Mamba mentality. The killer instinct… we need closer badly… every close game we lost because we have no closer period. |
We have bron. Statistically the best closer ever. |
Russ used to be a great closer as well...........
back in his OKC days  |
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TylersLakers
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| To come out of that road trip with only 2 wins is horrible. |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| lakerican wrote: | | You know, people talking about Lue and that championship that was LeAwarded to him, people has really forgot how that really went down. |
4 straight conference finals wins and a championship...with Lebron...now compare that to Vogel or Ham...where their teams were in playoff race and where Lue has and have had his with similar injuries to two stars.
But let me clear this up before it gets misunderstood so don't get it twisted...faulk Lue, and anyone else that isn't a Laker when it comes down to it. My preference, dream, wish, is that Ham grows into a great coach.
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AtlLaker
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| TylersLakers wrote: | | To come out of that road trip with only 2 wins is horrible. |
Have you seen the Lakers schedule after OKC ? |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| samnizam wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | lakerican wrote: | | Rui played only 18 minutes and not a single one in BI. |
Horrible no excuse for a coach… Ham cost this team so many wins. |
The players did lose the game . Kobe would have won at least half of them. We don’t have a mamba (Closers) when we need a basket. lBJ is 38 yrs old…
Yes we need closer LBJ is not closer at this age. AD is not closer and the list goes on… That has nothing to do with coaching.
Basketball has changed.. you can’t rough players any more the system reward offense.
Finally I’m not a fan of hamm but the lakers has many problems. |
No excuse to only play Rui only 18mins win or lose. That’s a sign of bad coaching specially when you create mismatches against yourself.
Horrible coaching is horrible coaching period. Ham is horrible with his rotation and line-ups. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | lakerican wrote: | | Rui played only 18 minutes and not a single one in BI. |
Horrible no excuse for a coach… Ham cost this team so many wins. |
The players did lose the game . Kobe would have won at least half of them. We don’t have a mamba (Closers) when we need a basket. lBJ is 38 yrs old…
Yes we need closer LBJ is not closer at this age. AD is not closer and the list goes on… That has nothing to do with coaching.
Basketball has changed.. you can’t rough players any more the system reward offense.
Finally I’m not a fan of hamm but the lakers has many problems. |
No excuse to only play Rui only 18mins win or lose. That’s a sign of bad coaching specially when you create mismatches against yourself.
Horrible coaching is horrible coaching period. Ham is horrible with his rotation and line-ups. |
Didn’t we have a lead? Our guys choked. That’s the reality. Look at our record.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| AtlLaker wrote: | | TylersLakers wrote: | | To come out of that road trip with only 2 wins is horrible. |
Have you seen the Lakers schedule after OKC ? |
Pretty obvious with me and you and everyone else that we need to make changes before the trade deadline, this group isn’t gonna get it done... |
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TMG
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| TylersLakers wrote: | | To come out of that road trip with only 2 wins is horrible. |
Lower your expectations because it's only going to get worse based on schedule.
Wonder if one can bet on teams not making the play ins still.
Because im fairly secure in saying we wont make the play ins.
Crazy two years in a row. |
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samnizam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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LBJ not closer
AD not closer
RW disaster waiting to happen
The remaining not closer , cannot create their own shots when you really need a bucket…
That has nothing to do with coach . Coach can draw play ..players execute the plays. Hen lakers in the past needed a bucket Kobe was there. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| samnizam wrote: | LBJ not closer
AD not closer
RW disaster waiting to happen
The remaining not closer , cannot create their own shots when you really need a bucket…
That has nothing to do with coach . Coach can draw play ..players execute the plays. Hen lakers in the past needed a bucket Kobe was there. |
B Ron is our closer.
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samnizam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | | TylersLakers wrote: | | To come out of that road trip with only 2 wins is horrible. |
Lower your expectations because it's only going to get worse based on schedule.
Wonder if one can bet on teams not making the play ins still.
Because im fairly secure in saying we wont make the play ins.
Crazy two years in a row. |
I hope you can bet that there is almost half of season left… so I bet some bookies will t -at- ke your money. |
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samnizam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | LBJ not closer
AD not closer
RW disaster waiting to happen
The remaining not closer , cannot create their own shots when you really need a bucket…
That has nothing to do with coach . Coach can draw play ..players execute the plays. Hen lakers in the past needed a bucket Kobe was there. |
B Ron is our closer. |
How many game is his career he closed last minute shot, I can recall many for Kobe…
Kobe is closer.
MJ was closer
Damian L is closer
The nba don’t have many closers… |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | LBJ not closer
AD not closer
RW disaster waiting to happen
The remaining not closer , cannot create their own shots when you really need a bucket…
That has nothing to do with coach . Coach can draw play ..players execute the plays. Hen lakers in the past needed a bucket Kobe was there. |
B Ron is our closer. |
better than A A Ron? |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| samnizam wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | samnizam wrote: | LBJ not closer
AD not closer
RW disaster waiting to happen
The remaining not closer , cannot create their own shots when you really need a bucket…
That has nothing to do with coach . Coach can draw play ..players execute the plays. Hen lakers in the past needed a bucket Kobe was there. |
B Ron is our closer. |
How many game is his career he closed last minute shot, I can recall many for Kobe…
Kobe is closer.
MJ was closer
Damian L is closer
The nba don’t have many closers… |
You’re just hating. Our record has nothing to do with bron.
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