Westbrook is a good person, but a terrible player. Irving is a terrible person, but a good player.

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ThreePointBomber · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:28 pm Post subject:

How is Kyrie a terrible person?

You seem to be brainwashed by the media.
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I don't know that Kyrie is a terrible person. In fact, his history shows he's a pretty damn good person. Now... egotistical, ignorant, phony, selfish teammate? Maybe.

W.W.K.D. (What would Kobe Do).

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Meh. I was never a Kyrie fan, but I don't think Kyrie is any more terrible than the average person. A bit ignorant? Sure. It's just that social media is so much of a cancer today that everything is either "good" or "bad". The age of nuance is over, courtesy of twitter and mainstream media outlets looking for clicks.

Kblo247! · Star Player Joined: 05 Oct 2015 Posts: 3864

Kyrie is a very good person in terms of what he gives to charity, activism, and everything else. You can argue misguided but he’s never done anything bad. He’s never gotten in trouble with the law. That’s a stupid ass thing to label him

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The point of competitive sports is to win. Though if a player is such a terrible person, then people might not be able to look past his character flaws. Take Mike Tyson for example, one of the most dominating boxers of all time but nobody cares about him because of his terrible character such as biting Hollyfield's ear and wanting to eat his children.

Kyrie has character issues but not on Tyson's level yet so I would still take Kyrie and a championship over the Brickster.
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LakerDYnasty72 · Star Player Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 4574

Very evident that you thought of a catchy phrase, and thought making a whole thread about it was, shall we say, enjoyable?

That's cool, but Kyrie is not a terrible person. A gifted, spoiled (I say that without trying to judge him) priviledged athlete, who is looking at life through the lens of a priviledged athlete, who is also learning that everything he believes doesn't need to be shared with the world.

Label him what you want, but I try to look in the mirror a little longer at my own faults, so as not to be caught up too much with people who are smug in judging others because they're in the public, rather than in private where we all have our ish.

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i don’t think it’s fair to call Kyrie a bad person just because he believes in something that echoes conspiracists. In fact, can we call 30% of Americans bad persons because they believe the conspiracists? People like Alex Jones are evils and brainwash people.
I’d be willing to give Kyrie a chance, we all gave Kobe one.

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ThreePointBomber · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:45 pm Post subject:

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Labeling Kyrie as a terrible person minimizes some very valid issues:

1 - Palestinian Arabs are Semites, too, strictly speaking,
2 - The issues the Black Israelites raise (I'm not one, BTW) are not anti-Jewish, but anti-State-of-Israel, stemming from:
- the tremendous amount of racism towards Black Jews in Israel, even though Ethiopian and southern African Jews often have more Jewish DNA than European Jews,
- worldwide concern that many people (including Israeli citizens) have regarding the categorization of Palestinians as sub human by the Israeli right wing - [I was at a pro-Israel faction meeting where the organizer (Jewish American) referred to the Palestinians as n*****s. Being Black, I got up and walked out]
- The blank check that Israel has to commit acts for which we condemn other nations (including spying on the USA and stealing technological and military secrets with near impunity).

[Before I'm labeled as an anti- XXX, I donated $1,500 to the Jewish Federation last year].

Now, if you want to categorize Kyrie as misinformed, I buy that. If you want to say he has psychological or emotional issues, I can get with that. But just like I don't condemn Jerry Jones for attending a White Supremacist meeting which he claims he attended out of ignorance, I don't condemn Kyrie for posting a link to a sketchy movie.

Now Kanye? You can wrap that MF up in a Nazi flag and lock his Hitler loving ass up. But I think there is a divide between what Kyrie linked and being anti-Jewish.

He hasn't (to my knowledge), slapped around baby mommas, set a bag of kittens on fire or taken money from families on welfare for speeches he never made. Let's chill on "He's a terrible person."
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ThreePointBomber · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:30 pm Post subject:

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Kyrie has a relationship with the media like Kareem did. That hurts him in this social media age. 20 years ago Shaq went through something similar because of his relationship with Minister Farrakhan.

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Don Draper · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:03 pm Post subject:

We should try and get Jordan Clarkson instead, get some good vibes going

ThreePointBomber · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:49 pm Post subject:

Day · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:01 am Post subject:

Actual wild takes in here lmao

Kyrie is not a 'terrible person' and Russ is not a 'terrible' player.

All Kyrie did was link a picture of a movie that had an incredibly small part about questioning how many were killed in the holocaust. The overreaction was actually insane and just driven by the media for clicks. Tsai tried to ruin this mans career over it but no one cares that it's still up on Amazon being sold right now for profit but Kyrie is the bad guy because he posted a picture of it on his IG story? Lol. The ironic thing is the message of the movie is that modern day blacks are Jewish descendants of Shem so his entire point was how can he be anti-semitic, that's what he was saying when he said "how can I be anti-semitic if I know where I come from".

And even if you disagree with all of the above how does this lead to him being a terrible person? People are allowed to be wrong, you can have disagreements, you can have differences in ideologies but to bash someone as a terrible person because of that is immature af.

Saying Russ is a terrible player is also just ignorant, he's in the top candidates for 6moy in the NBA how is that terrible? Worst you can say is his contract is way too big for his performance but to say he's a terrible player is wild.