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venturalakersfan
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Another 130+ point defensive effort. Start rebuilding for next season.
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miggz23
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Most of OKC players tonight scored more than their season averages tonight
While AD could not even sniff 15 points. |
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anth2000
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It’s also on Ham.
He can’t motivate these players.
No one trying out there.
This roster is ass.
His coaching staff is ass.
I blame a lot of this on Ham too, and Pelinka for an ass roster.
This season is over. |
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mad55557777
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | Starting backcourt getting outscored again 50-14... We been playing with this huge handicap all season.
WTF happen to AD??? |
He got 9 shots. Dennis got 9 with 3 turnovers, Russ got 19 with 6 turnovers. He also got played less minutes than Dennis.
At a point in the second I thought of something Hakeem once said .. he would take 3 second calls on purpose if the ball didn’t come in the post.
And there was a stretch where it was AD and all guards and he had post position at the goal 4 straight trips and didn’t even get a touch where you could say f it, get the 3 seconds. He is not Giannis who handles the ball, he’s reliant on them giving him the ball |
Does AD look engaged to you? He was wondering around the perimeter all night. There were 2 balls in the 4th and he could’ve went for it and didn’t bother |
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AtlLaker
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| This team is a Lottery team and all you’ll hear about is the record. Bron celebrating and talking about a party. Yet they lost the game. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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We fired Vogel because Ham is better at sucking off Russ and keeping him in check.
SMH.
Our coach is a complete idiot. |
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MagicMamba88
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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i really don't want to hear AD during the post game saying he needs to do more or (bleep).
go do it and stop talking about it. |
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farzadkavari
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| Please bring back Smush Parker. |
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strong9
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| farzadkavari wrote: | | Please bring back Smush Parker. |
Wow...that is the depths of despair..lol |
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LakerSD
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| anth2000 wrote: | It’s also on Ham.
He can’t motivate these players.
No one trying out there.
This roster is ass.
His coaching staff is ass.
I blame a lot of this on Ham too, and Pelinka for an ass roster.
This season is over. |
Well let’s stop with the 2 star or 3 star bull (bleep) then because getting 1.5 star performance (if that) isn’t good enough to beat non-tanking teams.
So don’t do Kyrie/Lebron/AD if they aren’t going to play 65 games together. We know they won’t… |
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Lakesh0wtime
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Bron2AD
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Ad last game: we need to play with sense of urgency
Ad this game: no show
What a pathetic outing. Got physically abused by 6’9 rookie
Pathetic
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Halflife
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| AtlLaker wrote: | | This team is a Lottery team and all you’ll hear about is the record. Bron celebrating and talking about a party. Yet they lost the game. |
It was an important record. Plus if we land in the lottery it will be the 3rd time in 5 years. We have a team where our leaders don’t hold winning in high regard.
But he should party. Amazing feat.
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TMG
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| Somebody please give me the net rating of that all guard lineup. I have to see it. |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Another 130+ point defensive effort. Start rebuilding for next season. |
Who's doing the building? I don't agree with fans that want to rebuild...the team is gonna suck for much longer and much worse than now if the rebuild starts now. At least now we can hope against hope that incompetent Pelinka can orchestrate another title with AD and LBJ. From scratch the way the front office looks with pieces capable of competing for a title I don't trust them building without pieces.
A rebuild starting now would suck worst than this for longer than this.
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Kblo247!
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | Starting backcourt getting outscored again 50-14... We been playing with this huge handicap all season.
WTF happen to AD??? |
He got 9 shots. Dennis got 9 with 3 turnovers, Russ got 19 with 6 turnovers. He also got played less minutes than Dennis.
At a point in the second I thought of something Hakeem once said .. he would take 3 second calls on purpose if the ball didn’t come in the post.
And there was a stretch where it was AD and all guards and he had post position at the goal 4 straight trips and didn’t even get a touch where you could say f it, get the 3 seconds. He is not Giannis who handles the ball, he’s reliant on them giving him the ball |
Does AD look engaged to you? He was wondering around the perimeter all night. There were 2 balls in the 4th and he could’ve went for it and didn’t bother |
It’s your (not your) but the guard job and coach job to engage an actual big. You don’t engage AD by trotting 3 points out next to him with Troy at 4 and say cover for them all on defense and we will not give you shots even for the covering.
In the words of Shaq “the big dog won’t guard the yard if he won’t get fed”
It’s a catch 22. He’s not KD or Giannis so he’s not going to just bring it up and get his over and over. The argument you could make is AD go get it off the glass, and even then he should ask you why. The team was fine playing through him, and since she’s been back, he’s went out his way to not step on toes, but his attempts and touches are not like they were before he went out.
That three guard lineup is a -17 on the year and they are always playing from behind, but people are asking AD to cover them on defense and be happy on offense while his guards don’t give him the damn ball
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Halflife
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What the hell was that in the 4th
Lebron quit and faked an injury because he didn't want a loss to taint his record breaking night
AD was absolutely invisible
Russ was the only guy out there for us playing to win. |
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mad55557777
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | Starting backcourt getting outscored again 50-14... We been playing with this huge handicap all season.
WTF happen to AD??? |
He got 9 shots. Dennis got 9 with 3 turnovers, Russ got 19 with 6 turnovers. He also got played less minutes than Dennis.
At a point in the second I thought of something Hakeem once said .. he would take 3 second calls on purpose if the ball didn’t come in the post.
And there was a stretch where it was AD and all guards and he had post position at the goal 4 straight trips and didn’t even get a touch where you could say f it, get the 3 seconds. He is not Giannis who handles the ball, he’s reliant on them giving him the ball |
Does AD look engaged to you? He was wondering around the perimeter all night. There were 2 balls in the 4th and he could’ve went for it and didn’t bother |
It’s your (not your) but the guard job and coach job to engage an actual big. You don’t engage AD by trotting 3 points out next to him with Troy at 4 and say cover for them all on defense and we will not give you shots even for the covering.
In the words of Shaq “the big dog won’t guard the yard if he won’t get fed”
It’s a catch 22. He’s not KD or Giannis so he’s not going to just bring it up and get his over and over. The argument you could make is AD go get it off the glass, and even then he should ask you why. The team was fine playing through him, and since she’s been back, he’s went out his way to not step on toes, but his attempts and touches are not like they were before he went out. |
Wow, you think AD being this disinterested is because of our guards? Did he see him ask for the ball in the post at all? I saw bron did some, and obviously our starting PGs have no really passing ability, but AD didn’t even try hard to get position. |
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Halflife
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Hanging from Rafters
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| ingle wrote: | What the hell was that in the 4th
Lebron quit and faked an injury because he didn't want a loss to taint his record breaking night
AD was absolutely invisible
Russ was the only guy out there for us playing to win. |
I don't want Russ on the team...I think overall he is a detriment to the team...but your take is the truth. Russ plays hard trying to win. it is up to the coaching staff to use him in a way that benefits the team. Still...trade Russ for Turner and Heild.
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anth2000
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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This team is not being coached at all.
No one knows what to do offensively or defensively.
Ham tries to be everyone’s friend.
He sucks.
I want him gone!
Vogel was 1000 times the coach. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| MagicMamba88 wrote: | AD came to the game all mopey and no energy at all.
wtf is that all about |
That's who he is.. Much like Odom was (AD is a much better player obviously but the attitudes feel similar).. They can look like the best player on the floor for an entire game or even stretches of games but at any time they can also look completely lost and uninterested while looking like a mediocre role player at best. You just have to accept that at this point because the few times he starts beasting and looking at all consistent he'll get injured and come back looking like he was tonight. Great second option on a really good team but that's his ceiling imo especially going forward as his prime window is def. closing.
We got a ton of false hope during the Covid run as he got all that rest and when he came back he was on absolute fire we haven't seen him come close to since especially sustaining it.
Russ is just straight trash, he might not be the entire problem (kind of an obvious point in a team sport) but he sure as hell finds ways to just shoot this team in the foot consistently with awful shots and decisions at the worst times while being Fisher esque with layups. I know i'll be legitimately celebrating the day when he no longer is a Laker... |
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