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| magic_bryant wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Mayo is a kid with All-Star talent and Steve Francis attitude. |
So, basically, he's Steve Francis. 
Seriously, he's talented. Kobe-like in highschool with the handles, jumpshot, athleticism, etc. Got it all.
Except humility and class.
The 'tude will ruin him. |
Same thing was said about Kobe.
Especially after he declared for the draft with sunglasses on top of his head like a big time Hollywood director.
"Except humility and class" is posted again and again.
Particularly on Spurs boards. Those are the most sefl-righteous fans in all the NBA.
It almost makes me wish for a Duncan scandal. Almost. 
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^There's a difference.
Kobe Bryant was a kid who mad misconduct outside of the classroom. Always conducted himself well there.
It was suggested he was a headcase because of his sunglasses and the ego from his father.
Whatever. You get OJ Mayo. You get Steve Francis. You get DeShawn Stevenson.
All of these kids had issues outside of the class. Not Bryant.
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Mike, you might have typed too fast. I am not exactly sure what you meant but what I am saying there was a lot of Kobe hate right away.
Including accusations Kobe let other teams stay in the game only so he could rescue his team at the end.
The OJ bumping the official thing is overblown in my opionion. He did not punch the guy. He got mad ran over to the offical to complain and ran into him.
He deserved to get ejected becuase players need to keep their distance as to not accidently bump into an official becuase they did not correctly judge distances.
I would take OJ Mayo on the Lakers yesterday.
Francis or Stevenson comparisons thrown into the "whatever" can.
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| NestT wrote: | Mike, you might have typed too fast. I am not exactly sure what you meant but what I am saying there was a lot of Kobe hate right away.
Including accusations Kobe let other teams stay in the game only so he could rescue his team at the end.
The OJ bumping the official thing is overblown in my opionion. He did not punch the guy. He got mad ran over to the offical to complain and ran into him.
He deserved to get ejected becuase players need to keep their distance as to not accidently bump into an official becuase they did not correctly judge distances.
I would take OJ Mayo on the Lakers yesterday.
Francis or Stevenson comparisons thrown into the "whatever" can. |
Yeah, he didn't even touch the ref. It looked like the ref just tripped and fell. As far as having him on the Lakers I would welcome him in an instance. He would probably be a pretty good fit in the Tri too.
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| I can't pinpoint a player to target at this point, but in general the Lakers are in a better situation than they have been in the past. They have enough young players contributing that it allows you take a project and develop them. I was leaning toward Splitter, and likely would want him if he were available, but you have to wonder why he isn't the dominant prospect that he should be by now. I really don't see how Gray or Brewer could fall to the Lakers, unless they go on a slide and get a 7 or 8 seed. The thing that I love about the draft is having the high Charlotte pick though, |
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NestT
It's not the first time he's had issues. He's fought with fellow teammates on his own HS team.
It's not this one situation, but one of many.
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Here we go:
Alongside fellow teammate stud Bill Walker who whoops for KU
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507635/posts
| Quote: | Suspended Mayo misses party
Walker says star was in fight
BY TOM GROESCHEN AND DUSTIN DOW | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITERS
news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060426/SPT0301/604260377/1069/SPT03
...According to Bill Walker, a member of the North College Hill team, Mayo has been suspended from school as a result of getting into a fight.
The suspension was confirmed by two NCH sources and a member of the NCH school board.
The sources would not say whether the length of Mayo's suspension has been established. A local TV station reported Monday that Mayo had been suspended for 180 days. That figure, the sources said, is not accurate.
Walker also said the 180-day figure is incorrect.
"He (Mayo) got into a fight and got suspended for 10 days," Walker said. "It wasn't 180 days. I don't know where that came from."
NCH superintendent Gary Gellert and principal Kelly Hughes both said the school cannot comment on student disciplinary matters. ... |
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It's a good thing Mayo will have some chance to mature in college, before he gets to the NBA.
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Steve Francis went to Maryland. How mature is he?
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| Mike, do any of the 3's or undersized 4's in the upcoming draft have Gerald Wallace type potential? |
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Exactly. Mayo has had more than one screw-up.
I can't stand to watch Florida. Watching Brewer dominate defensively is too much, because I KNOW that there is NO WAY in hell he's in a Lakers uniform next year.
Would be a perfect 2/3 to play alongside Kobe and Odom on the perimeter.
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| Freakout wrote: | | Mike, do any of the 3's or undersized 4's in the upcoming draft have Gerald Wallace type potential? |
The only real other play I watch NCAA basketball.
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/julianwright.html
Skill-wise, it's Boris Diaw
Defensively, he swats like GW.
And the boy can pass too.
Athletic, near VC.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Mike, do any of the 3's or undersized 4's in the upcoming draft have Gerald Wallace type potential? |
The only real other play I watch NCAA basketball.
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/julianwright.html
Skill-wise, it's Boris Diaw
Defensively, he swats like GW.
And the boy can pass too.
Athletic, near VC. |
what is Wright's upside in your opinion. I heard some say KG. |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Mike, do any of the 3's or undersized 4's in the upcoming draft have Gerald Wallace type potential? |
The only real other play I watch NCAA basketball.
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/julianwright.html
Skill-wise, it's Boris Diaw
Defensively, he swats like GW.
And the boy can pass too.
Athletic, near VC. |
I love watching him play too. Reminds me of a more athletic LO.
My favorites to watch as of right now:
Florida - They got everything that I value. Brewer is my favorite player to watch. Noah's passing, ball-handling, mobility, and defense at that size is very aesthetically pleasing. Horford's ability to control the paint, Green's PG play.
Just a very enjoyable team.
UNC- Brandan Wright. Need I say more?
Texas- Durant is just interesting. Not a fan of his, but what he's doing at his size and age is undeniably intriguing.
KU- Love Julian Wright's game. Watching what becomes of Brandon Rush's game is also interesting, as he's a player that I could see falling to a position where I think the Lakers may be able to steal him.
Arizona- That's my team. The development of Shakur's game from gunner to legit PG that you can trust has been great to see. Budinger, who doesn't like seeing a whiteboy that can get up. Marcus Williams, though not a fan, has talent.
Mike- What do you think of Ivan Radenovic's game? He displays great Triangle skills, isn't a complete matador on D, though could stand to hit the weights a good bit.
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| Michlake wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Mike, do any of the 3's or undersized 4's in the upcoming draft have Gerald Wallace type potential? |
The only real other play I watch NCAA basketball.
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/julianwright.html
Skill-wise, it's Boris Diaw
Defensively, he swats like GW.
And the boy can pass too.
Athletic, near VC. |
what is Wright's upside in your opinion. I heard some say KG. |
I'd say he's about where LO's potential is. Just doesn't have the size to dominate the boards like KG.
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what is Wright's upside in your opinion. I heard some say KG. |
Boris Diaw skill in VC's body/athletic abilities. Both ends of the floor.
Not KG. Doesn't have the interior footwork or relative inside play abilities.
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Acie Law
dude looked sick against Texas.
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| magic_bryant wrote: | Exactly. Mayo has had more than one screw-up.
I can't stand to watch Florida. Watching Brewer dominate defensively is too much, because I KNOW that there is NO WAY in hell he's in a Lakers uniform next year.
Would be a perfect 2/3 to play alongside Kobe and Odom on the perimeter. |
That's exactly what I have been thinking.
Brewer falling into the 20s is pure hype, but how perfect would he be for this team. People talk about how the Lakers need interior D, but that's not the only problem. An anchor in the paint is obviously huge for a team defensively, but no one is good enough to defend two players when our guards constantly allow dribble penetration. That's why a defensive minded PG would also be perfect for the team. Dribble penetration is what runs the league now, with the new rules. Brewer is going to be VERY valuable to whichever team picks him up.
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Brewer simply does everything great defensively. I've yet to see one thing that I can fault him on defensively. Now, maybe Mike has seen one or two things, but with my untrained eye, I have yet to see anything.
Boxes out nearly everytime a shot goes up. Contests. Slides his feet as quick as a PG. Uses the angles and his length to his advantage. Competes when matched up against bigger bodies on switches.
All that defense with an NBA 2-guard level handle and passing ability? 3 point range?
My favorite player in the nation. Not the best, but my favorite.
No way he makes it to the 20s. I'll be surprised if he makes it out of the top 10.
Too bad.
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| ArrOhBee wrote: | Acie Law
dude looked sick against Texas. |
Not really a fan, but can't deny that the dude is as clutch a player as there is in the nation.
Mike- What do you think about Joseph Jones? I hadn't seen him much, but was able to catch a game this past Saturday. He took a couple 3s. Good rebounder from what I saw.
Thoughts?
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| magic_bryant wrote: | Brewer simply does everything great defensively. I've yet to see one thing that I can fault him on defensively. Now, maybe Mike has seen one or two things, but with my untrained eye, I have yet to see anything.
Boxes out nearly everytime a shot goes up. Contests. Slides his feet as quick as a PG. Uses the angles and his length to his advantage. Competes when matched up against bigger bodies on switches.
All that defense with an NBA 2-guard level handle and passing ability? 3 point range?
My favorite player in the nation. Not the best, but my favorite.
No way he makes it to the 20s. I'll be surprised if he makes it out of the top 10.
Too bad. |
I think he will drop into the teens, personally.
There are a LOT of great prospects this year. A lot of big guys, too, who historically get drafted ahead of guards. He'll be the third player drafted from his team (behind Noah and Horford), and fall into the early to mid teens, IMO. Still nowhere near the 20s though. No chance he makes it to LA without some sort of trade (or massive collapse this season) occuring.
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I've been talking about Corey Brewer since tourney time LAST YEAR.
Lakers should obviously try to trade up for him, but nobody wants what we'd be peddling (ie Vlad, Luke, Cook, Kwame, and garbage picks) |
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| D Nice wrote: | I've been talking about Corey Brewer since tourney time LAST YEAR.
Lakers should obviously try to trade up for him, but nobody wants what we'd be peddling (ie Vlad, Luke, Cook, Kwame, and garbage picks) |
Chicago might consider trading the knicks 1st rounder.
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| magic_bryant wrote: | | ArrOhBee wrote: | Acie Law
dude looked sick against Texas. |
Not really a fan, but can't deny that the dude is as clutch a player as there is in the nation.
Mike- What do you think about Joseph Jones? I hadn't seen him much, but was able to catch a game this past Saturday. He took a couple 3s. Good rebounder from what I saw.
Thoughts? |
Hey, happy to see A&M getting some love here (I'm class of '95).
As an A&M and Laker fan my thought is that if Acie falls to where LA picks, he is certainly no worse than Farmar or Sasha. Good size (6'3"), handles, Kobesque ability to take over games when it counts, great leader. A&M plays an aggressive defensive style so while not a lockdown defender, he would be an upgrade over Smush, Farmar, or Sasha in the team defensive scheme. I think he will get overlooked because everyone wants the next Tony Parker with that blazing first step, but he will be a nice player in the NBA.
I've thought about Jo Jones as a second round guy. He has a nice offensive game, yet still plays the enforcer role as the mean and aggressive defensive-rebounder. I don't think he has the atheleticism to thrive at the 3 in the NBA and is too short to play the 4. |
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I've been an Acie Law fan since last year's tournament.
He doesn't have eye-popping athletic ability or speed, but he is deceptively quick.
He can score from behind the arc, in midrange, or at the rim. Plus he can finish in the lane equally well with either his right or left hand, which is huge.
He picks his spots beautifully within the offense and balances getting his teammates shots and getting his own shots.
He's a major cog on one of the best defensive teams in the country. It would have been nice to see him matchup against DJ Augustin last night, but Gillespie rarely put him on him.
And he is absolute NAILS when the game is on the line. I can't remember anybody in college recently who has consistently been this great in the closing 5 minutes of a game.
With Smush, McKie, and Williams status up in the air next year, I'd be pretty happy if he somehow slipped to the Lakers spot. As a senior he'd be ready to play right away, and he has all the intangibles needed to have a successful NBA career. |
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