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 Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: Chad Ford Ranks Draft Eligible Players Based on NBA Team Draft Boards |
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Ford ranks these players based on NBA Draft Boards, meaning he attempts to find out where teams around the league have these players ranked and then averages their position. This is not a prediction of who they will be draft by, but only what players will likely be available given a spot in the draft.
As of yesterday (05/01), NBAdraft.net has us taking PF Tiago Splitter in the 1st round, PG Petteri Koponen in the 2nd round, and SG Quinton Hosley in the second round as well (I have italicized the first two below, Hosley didn't make Ford's cut).
First Round Prospects
1 Greg Oden C 7-0 245 19 Ohio State Top 2 - The consensus No. 1 pick in the draft despite Kevin Durant's amazing season. Draws comparisons... more
2 Kevin Durant SF 6-10 190 18 Texas Top 2 - Some scouts are calling him a mixture of Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki. Others say... more
3 Al Horford PF 6-9 235 20 Florida Top 10 - Horford has the body and skill set needed to play in the NBA right away.... more
4 Yi Jianlian PF 7-0 230 19 China Top 10 - Yi is the best international prospect in the draft this year. He has a ton... more
5 Brandan Wright PF 6-10 210 19 North Carolina Top 10 - On potential, he has the chance to be a NBA All-Star. And so far he's... more
6 Corey Brewer SG 6-8 185 21 Florida Top 10 - An excellent NCAA tournament this season helped Brewer's stock perhaps more than anyone else. He... more
7 Mike Conley PG 6-0 170 19 Ohio State Top 10 - Conley quickly asserted himself as the best young college point guard in the country. His... more
8 Julian Wright SF 6-9 220 19 Kansas Top 10 - Wright may be the most versatile player in the draft. He can guard and play... more
9 Jeff Green SF 6-8 225 20 Georgetown Lottery - Scouts love his versatility and all-around game. But he doesn't really have one standout skill... more
10 Joakim Noah PF 6-11 230 22 Florida Lottery - Noah capped an amazing NCAA tournament in 2006 with a near-perfect championship game -- a... more
11 Spencer Hawes C 7-0 230 19 Washington Lottery - Hawes doesn't have the athletic upside of many of the top prospects in the draft,... more
12 Roy Hibbert C 7-2 265 20 Georgetown Lottery - He's been all over the boards with scouts over the past few years. They love... more
13 Al Thornton SF 6-7 210 23 Florida State Lottery to mid first round - A few big games against Florida and North Carolina this season have given him some... more
14 Acie Law PG 6-3 185 22 Texas A&M Lottery to mid first round -Law has quietly developed into one of the top point guards in the country. His... more
15 Thaddeus Young SF 6-8 210 18 Georgia Tech Lottery to mid first round - Young is another big-time prospect whose upside is only limited by questions about position and... more
16 Tiago Splitter PF 7-0 240 22 Brazil Lottery to mid first round - His stock was hurt in previous drafts over serious questions about whether an NBA team... more
17 Jason Smith PF 7-0 230 21 Colorado State Lottery to mid first round - A sleeper. Scouts are always looking for skilled big men and they believe Smith has... more
18 Nick Young SG 6-6 200 21 USC Lottery to mid first round - Young has the potential to be a lottery pick with his skills. But scouts are... more
19 Javaris Crittenton PG 6-5 180 19 Georgia Tech Mid to late first round - Most big point guards are really two guards with some ball handling skills. Not Crittenton.... more
20 Ante Tomic C 7-2 237 20 Croatia Mid to late first round - Tomic is big-time prospect. He has a rare combination of size, skill and athletic ability.... more
21 Brandon Rush SG 6-7 205 21 Kansas Mid to late first round - Was Big 12 freshman of the year, but took a bit of a backseat to... more
22 Daequan Cook SG 6-5 210 20 Ohio State Mid to late first round - Cook came on strong at the start of the season, but then took a back... more
23 Rodney Stuckey SG 6-4 205 21 Eastern Wash. Mid to late first round - He's considered a serious draft sleeper by some NBA scouts who think he has legit... more
24 Gabe Pruitt PG 6-4 170 21 USC Mid to late first round - A sleeper. A number of NBA scouts commented that they were very intrigued with his... more
25 Josh McRoberts PF 6-10 230 20 Duke Mid to late first round - McRoberts had a chance to be a Top 10 pick in the 2006 NBA Draft... more
26 Rudy Fernandez SG 6-6 172 22 Spain Late first to early second - He fell out of good graces with many GMs last season. He's got all the... more
27 Sean Williams C 6-10 230 20 Boston College Late first to early second - Williams was having an impressive season before he was dismissed from the team. The kid... more
28 Marco Belinelli SG 6-6 200 21 Italy Late first to early second - Belinelli turned heads last season and this summer with very mature play at the highest... more
29 Marcus Williams SF 6-7 207 20 Arizona Late first to early second - Williams has had a bit of an up and down season this year at Arizona.... more
30 Marc Gasol C 7-0 265 22 Spain Late first to early second - Some NBA international scouts think that, with proper conditioning he could be a valuable player... more
Second Round Prospects
31 Glen Davis PF 6-9 290 21 LSU Late first to early second
32 Herbert Hill PF 6-10 240 22 Providence Late first to early second
33 Alando Tucker SF 6-5 205 23 Wisconsin Late first to early second
34 Morris Almond SG 6-6 215 22 Rice Late first to early second
35 Dominic James PG 5-11 175 20 Marquette Late first to early second
36 Aaron Gray C 7-0 270 22 Pittsburgh Late first to early second
37 Taurean Green PG 6-0 177 21 Florida Late first to early second
38 Derrick Byars SF 6-7 220 23 Vanderbilt Late first to early second
39 Kyle Visser C 6-11 244 21 Wake Forest Late first to early second
40 DeVon Hardin C 6-11 235 20 California Late first to early second
41 Dominic McGuire SF 6-8 215 21 Fresno State Late first to early second
42 Trey Johnson SG 6-5 218 22 Jackson State Late first to early second
43 Nick Fazekas PF 6-11 225 21 Nevada Late first to early second
44 Kyrylo Fesenko PF 7-0 245 20 Ukraine Late first to early second
45 J. R. Reynolds SG 6-3 197 22 Virginia Late first ro early second
46 Petteri Koponen PG 6-4 194 19 Finland Second round to undrafted
47 Arron Afflalo SG 6-5 210 21 UCLA Second round to undrafted
48 Jared Dudley SF 6-7 220 21 Boston College Second round to undrafted
49 Renaldas Seibutis SG 6-6 180 21 Lithuania Second round to undrafted
50 JamesOn Curry SG 6-3 190 21 Oklahoma State Second round to undrafted
51 Jared Jordan PG 6-2 187 22 Marist Second round to undrafted
52 Wilson Chandler SF 6-8 230 19 DePaul Second round to undrafted
53 Artem Zabelin C 7-1 200 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
54 D. J. Strawberry SG 6-5 201 21 Maryland Second round to undrafted
55 Nemanja Aleksandrov SF 6-10 225 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
56 Demetris Nichols SF 6-8 210 22 Syracuse Second round to undrafted
57 Ali Traore PF 6-10 247 22 France Second round to undrafted
58 Ron Lewis SG 6-4 200 22 Ohio State Second round to undrafted
59 Stanko Barac C 7-1 235 20 Bosnia Second round to undrafted
60 James Mays PF 6-9 225 21 Clemson Second round to undrafted
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| any realistic chance of Nick Young being there when we pick? |
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I know Afflalo never got past Florida, but for two years he played on the best defense in the country, usually against the other teams best player, while averaging 15 points. Why would he go second round, let alone undrafted?
BTW couldn't the Lakers use a player that actually wants to play defense.
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Afflalo should have stayed in school.
Who's advising these kids? |
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| LA NATIVE wrote: | I know Afflalo never got past Florida, but for two years he played on the best defense in the country, usually against the other teams best player, while averaging 15 points. Why would he go second round, let alone undrafted?
BTW couldn't the Lakers use a player that actually wants to play defense. |
Afflalo's biggest knock is that while he may be NBA ready, scouts don't believe he has much upside left bc of his athleticism.
He was above average in college but not spectacular. Scouts are saying that he will simply be an average athlete in the NBA and that much of his accomplishments on both offense and D in college were achieved by maximizing a combination of his slight athletic advantage and his high skill level.
Judging from that analysis, scouts probably see him as a rotation player bc of his defensive effort and his shooting ability, but not a standout player. Rotation perimeter players picked before the late-first round are usually labeled as busts.
That being said, Farmar was disregarded for his above average athleticism in college and his potential average athletic status in the league about this same time last year. His 40+" vert at the pre-draft camp is what quieted much of those concerns. As it turns out, JF later informed the media that he'd been playing on two bad ankles all year for UCLA which is what led to his mere above average displays of athleticism in college.
Afflalo has a great great skillset, but many scouts are worried about his athleticism translating into his defensive abilities and his first step - not his sweet split second release though. If he can wow the scouts at the pre-draft camp, I could see him going in the first round.
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If we need a big,depending on what our total plans are going to be I would go with Splitter at #19. Can play both the 4 and 5 at 6-11 to 7-0'...
If we need a perimeter player we can only hope Crittenton is still around at #19.....6-5 point gurad,only 19,but I think he is even better than the #1 rated point in this draft Conley...
With the 40th pick we should hope Big baby Davis from LSU is still around,if he can show real determination and get down to 280 from 310 that is....  |
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IMO, we have a chance at anyone from about 14 or higher in Ford's rankings.
I think we are lucky to be picking 19....it seems to me at 20, that is where the talent drop off begins.
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| Muad'Dib wrote: | | Where's Batum? |
Withdrew. |
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| Muad'Dib wrote: | | Where's Batum? |
He pulled out....didn't want to ride the end of someone's bench, wanted to develop more in Eruope and maybe come back next season.
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| LakerSanity wrote: | IMO, we have a chance at anyone from about 14 or higher in Ford's rankings.
I think we are lucky to be picking 19....it seems to me at 20, that is where the talent drop off begins. |
Our pick is not the problem- Suns picking #3 is. |
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| The description at nbadraft on Koponen looks like the one they had on Sasha |
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| Laker Lurker wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | IMO, we have a chance at anyone from about 14 or higher in Ford's rankings.
I think we are lucky to be picking 19....it seems to me at 20, that is where the talent drop off begins. |
Our pick is not the problem- Suns picking #3 is. |
godd io try not to think about that 
what smart ass gave them that pick?? |
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Jarvis all the way
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^^^You mean 4-6, if the pick is #3 it goes to the Hawks as the pick has top 3 protection.
People also overestimate the Suns. They don't have the money to keep the players they have. They also only have something like 9 players on contract for next year, yet are already over the cap and on schedule to pay the luxury tax.
1) Phoenix will not trade the luxury tax, so in order to avoid the tax, they must trade two out of four of Diaw, Barbosa, Amare, and Marion to a team which has the cap room to take more salary than they give back to the suns (about $8 million). These teams include Orlando, Charlotte, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Memphis, and Toronto. Chad Ford and Marc Stein have been reporting this for over a year. No one will really take Diaw (because of his bad contract), so it comes down to Amare, Barbosa, and Marion (it is likely two of those players are gone next year).
2) However, the Suns have bigger problems. While needing to do the above trade, they need to do even more to free up money. This is because the Suns only have 9 players on contract next year, so need to bring in at least SIX ADDITIONAL players make the league minimum roster of 14. They won't use the MLE because that will cost too much. They also have to sign the high draft pick they will draft (around 2-3 million) and their second first round pick (likely which they will trade again similar to last year when they traded the Rondo pick last year).
3) Thomas is aging by the day (plus he only has two years left on his deal) and its only a matter of time, even as soon as next year, before Nash starts slowing down and/or suffers an injury that causes him to miss a lot of games.
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| BygDaddy wrote: | | The description at nbadraft on Koponen looks like the one they had on Sasha |
Well the good news is that Koponen would be a second round pick, where as we wasted a first round pick on Sasha.
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| Splitter would be great to get. He plays a lot like Pau Gasol |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | ^^^You mean 4-6, if the pick is #3 it goes to the Hawks as the pick has top 3 protection.
People also overestimate the Suns. They don't have the money to keep the players they have. They also only have something like 9 players on contract for next year, yet are already over the cap and on schedule to pay the luxury tax.
1) Phoenix will not trade the luxury tax, so in order to avoid the tax, they must trade two out of four of Diaw, Barbosa, Amare, and Marion to a team which has the cap room to take more salary than they give back to the suns (about $8 million). These teams include Orlando, Charlotte, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Memphis, and Toronto. Chad Ford and Marc Stein have been reporting this for over a year. No one will really take Diaw (because of his bad contract), so it comes down to Amare, Barbosa, and Marion (it is likely two of those players are gone next year).
2) However, the Suns have bigger problems. While needing to do the above trade, they need to do even more to free up money. This is because the Suns only have 9 players on contract next year, so need to bring in at least SIX ADDITIONAL players make the league minimum roster of 14. They won't use the MLE because that will cost too much. They also have to sign the high draft pick they will draft (around 2-3 million) and their second first round pick (likely which they will trade again similar to last year when they traded the Rondo pick last year).
3) Thomas is aging by the day (plus he only has two years left on his deal) and its only a matter of time, even as soon as next year, before Nash starts slowing down and/or suffers an injury that causes him to miss a lot of games. |
I hope you are right because # 4 will still be pretty good. Suns may not get Oden or Durant but looks like they will get a shot at Brandon Wright who would fit their offense perfectly and still provide defense. |
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How about Strawberry in the 2nd??
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| Laker Lurker wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | ^^^You mean 4-6, if the pick is #3 it goes to the Hawks as the pick has top 3 protection.
People also overestimate the Suns. They don't have the money to keep the players they have. They also only have something like 9 players on contract for next year, yet are already over the cap and on schedule to pay the luxury tax.
1) Phoenix will not trade the luxury tax, so in order to avoid the tax, they must trade two out of four of Diaw, Barbosa, Amare, and Marion to a team which has the cap room to take more salary than they give back to the suns (about $8 million). These teams include Orlando, Charlotte, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Memphis, and Toronto. Chad Ford and Marc Stein have been reporting this for over a year. No one will really take Diaw (because of his bad contract), so it comes down to Amare, Barbosa, and Marion (it is likely two of those players are gone next year).
2) However, the Suns have bigger problems. While needing to do the above trade, they need to do even more to free up money. This is because the Suns only have 9 players on contract next year, so need to bring in at least SIX ADDITIONAL players make the league minimum roster of 14. They won't use the MLE because that will cost too much. They also have to sign the high draft pick they will draft (around 2-3 million) and their second first round pick (likely which they will trade again similar to last year when they traded the Rondo pick last year).
3) Thomas is aging by the day (plus he only has two years left on his deal) and its only a matter of time, even as soon as next year, before Nash starts slowing down and/or suffers an injury that causes him to miss a lot of games. |
I hope you are right because # 4 will still be pretty good. Suns may not get Oden or Durant but looks like they will get a shot at Brandon Wright who would fit their offense perfectly and still provide defense. |
This is what I would do if I was the suns in the offseason in order to solidify their roster WHILE avoiding the luxury tax.
First I would trade Marion, Amare, and the SUns late first round pick for Sign/trade Gerald Wallace ($8 mil), Brevin Knight, Adam Morrison, and their first round pick. Right off the bat that would save the Suns about $14 million (Charlotte will do it because, even after signing Wallace, they would still be about $20 million below the cap and they obviously get a good deal talent wise). That means they would have about $6 million to sign their two high draft picks and still avoid paying the luxury tax.
So then they would likley have the 4th and 7th pick or so. I would draft Brandon Wright and Jakim Noah.
PG - Nash/Knight/Banks
SG - Bell/Barbosa
SF - Wallace/Morrison/Jones
PF - Wright/Noah/2nd round pick
C - Diaw/Thomas/Burke
Although immediately not as good, that team has the potential to be very good and all would thrive in D'Antoni's system. Not bad after getting rid of two all-stars.
Charlotte team would be -
PG - Felton/Pruitt/???
SG - Carrol/???/???
SF - Marion/Hermann
PF - Okafor/May/Harrington
C - Amare/Voskuhl/Hollins
They could use Phoenix's late pick om Gabe Pruitt. I would then re-sign Carrol for $2 mil. They would have to sign or trade for 3 more players, but would have $4 million in cap room to do it and the Bird rights of Brezec (who they could re-sign or trade) and could still trade Marion or Amare to other teams for more players as well.
The only problem is that the Bobcats want to avoid paying too much salary, but with that team, they wouyld still be way under the luxury tax threshold and I am sure their atendance and revnue share would go up. That is a great team.
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| BygDaddy wrote: | | Splitter would be great to get. He plays a lot like Pau Gasol |
Everything I've read about Splitter is that his offensive game is really really raw. This is very discouraging to me, because he's had a good three years of prepping for sequential NBA Drafts to work on his game with the knowledge of this weakness. I have to wonder how much he will develop if he hasn't already improved.
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Laker Lurker wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | ^^^You mean 4-6, if the pick is #3 it goes to the Hawks as the pick has top 3 protection.
People also overestimate the Suns. They don't have the money to keep the players they have. They also only have something like 9 players on contract for next year, yet are already over the cap and on schedule to pay the luxury tax.
1) Phoenix will not trade the luxury tax, so in order to avoid the tax, they must trade two out of four of Diaw, Barbosa, Amare, and Marion to a team which has the cap room to take more salary than they give back to the suns (about $8 million). These teams include Orlando, Charlotte, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Memphis, and Toronto. Chad Ford and Marc Stein have been reporting this for over a year. No one will really take Diaw (because of his bad contract), so it comes down to Amare, Barbosa, and Marion (it is likely two of those players are gone next year).
2) However, the Suns have bigger problems. While needing to do the above trade, they need to do even more to free up money. This is because the Suns only have 9 players on contract next year, so need to bring in at least SIX ADDITIONAL players make the league minimum roster of 14. They won't use the MLE because that will cost too much. They also have to sign the high draft pick they will draft (around 2-3 million) and their second first round pick (likely which they will trade again similar to last year when they traded the Rondo pick last year).
3) Thomas is aging by the day (plus he only has two years left on his deal) and its only a matter of time, even as soon as next year, before Nash starts slowing down and/or suffers an injury that causes him to miss a lot of games. |
I hope you are right because # 4 will still be pretty good. Suns may not get Oden or Durant but looks like they will get a shot at Brandon Wright who would fit their offense perfectly and still provide defense. |
This is what I would do if I was the suns in the offseason in order to solidify their roster WHILE avoiding the luxury tax.
First I would trade Marion, Amare, and the SUns late first round pick for Sign/trade Gerald Wallace ($8 mil), Brevin Knight, Adam Morrison, and their first round pick. Right off the bat that would save the Suns about $14 million (Charlotte will do it because, even after signing Wallace, they would still be about $20 million below the cap and they obviously get a good deal talent wise). That means they would have about $6 million to sign their two high draft picks and still avoid paying the luxury tax.
So then they would likley have the 4th and 7th pick or so. I would draft Brandon Wright and Jakim Noah.
PG - Nash/Knight/Banks
SG - Bell/Barbosa
SF - Wallace/Morrison/Jones
PF - Wright/Noah/2nd round pick
C - Diaw/Thomas/Burke
Although immediately not as good, that team has the potential to be very good and all would thrive in D'Antoni's system. Not bad after getting rid of two all-stars.
Charlotte team would be -
PG - Felton/Pruitt/???
SG - Carrol/???/???
SF - Marion/Hermann
PF - Okafor/May/Harrington
C - Amare/Voskuhl/Hollins
They could use Phoenix's late pick om Gabe Pruitt. I would then re-sign Carrol for $2 mil. They would have to sign or trade for 3 more players, but would have $4 million in cap room to do it and the Bird rights of Brezec (who they could re-sign or trade) and could still trade Marion or Amare to other teams for more players as well.
The only problem is that the Bobcats want to avoid paying too much salary, but with that team, they wouyld still be way under the luxury tax threshold and I am sure their atendance and revnue share would go up. That is a great team. |
i feel that trading both amare and marion is insane, but they will probably trade one of them soon. their owner flat out doesn't want to pay luxury tax under any circumstance. that is why they traded away Joe johnson, i know diaw is good, but johnson is a true-allstar, and would be in any system. diaw is only as good as he is in pheonix is becuase of the system. but one of them will be traded.
next year they currently have 9 players under contract, and are spending 76mil. that is without any draft picks or other players. so i have a feeling that some people will be gone soon. |
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| LA NATIVE wrote: | I know Afflalo never got past Florida, but for two years he played on the best defense in the country, usually against the other teams best player, while averaging 15 points. Why would he go second round, let alone undrafted?
BTW couldn't the Lakers use a player that actually wants to play defense. |
Thats what I was thinking. But it sure would be a great pickup if Afflalo went undrafted and he signed with the Lakers. |
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| 10scott10 wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | Laker Lurker wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | ^^^You mean 4-6, if the pick is #3 it goes to the Hawks as the pick has top 3 protection.
People also overestimate the Suns. They don't have the money to keep the players they have. They also only have something like 9 players on contract for next year, yet are already over the cap and on schedule to pay the luxury tax.
1) Phoenix will not trade the luxury tax, so in order to avoid the tax, they must trade two out of four of Diaw, Barbosa, Amare, and Marion to a team which has the cap room to take more salary than they give back to the suns (about $8 million). These teams include Orlando, Charlotte, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Memphis, and Toronto. Chad Ford and Marc Stein have been reporting this for over a year. No one will really take Diaw (because of his bad contract), so it comes down to Amare, Barbosa, and Marion (it is likely two of those players are gone next year).
2) However, the Suns have bigger problems. While needing to do the above trade, they need to do even more to free up money. This is because the Suns only have 9 players on contract next year, so need to bring in at least SIX ADDITIONAL players make the league minimum roster of 14. They won't use the MLE because that will cost too much. They also have to sign the high draft pick they will draft (around 2-3 million) and their second first round pick (likely which they will trade again similar to last year when they traded the Rondo pick last year).
3) Thomas is aging by the day (plus he only has two years left on his deal) and its only a matter of time, even as soon as next year, before Nash starts slowing down and/or suffers an injury that causes him to miss a lot of games. |
I hope you are right because # 4 will still be pretty good. Suns may not get Oden or Durant but looks like they will get a shot at Brandon Wright who would fit their offense perfectly and still provide defense. |
This is what I would do if I was the suns in the offseason in order to solidify their roster WHILE avoiding the luxury tax.
First I would trade Marion, Amare, and the SUns late first round pick for Sign/trade Gerald Wallace ($8 mil), Brevin Knight, Adam Morrison, and their first round pick. Right off the bat that would save the Suns about $14 million (Charlotte will do it because, even after signing Wallace, they would still be about $20 million below the cap and they obviously get a good deal talent wise). That means they would have about $6 million to sign their two high draft picks and still avoid paying the luxury tax.
So then they would likley have the 4th and 7th pick or so. I would draft Brandon Wright and Jakim Noah.
PG - Nash/Knight/Banks
SG - Bell/Barbosa
SF - Wallace/Morrison/Jones
PF - Wright/Noah/2nd round pick
C - Diaw/Thomas/Burke
Although immediately not as good, that team has the potential to be very good and all would thrive in D'Antoni's system. Not bad after getting rid of two all-stars.
Charlotte team would be -
PG - Felton/Pruitt/???
SG - Carrol/???/???
SF - Marion/Hermann
PF - Okafor/May/Harrington
C - Amare/Voskuhl/Hollins
They could use Phoenix's late pick om Gabe Pruitt. I would then re-sign Carrol for $2 mil. They would have to sign or trade for 3 more players, but would have $4 million in cap room to do it and the Bird rights of Brezec (who they could re-sign or trade) and could still trade Marion or Amare to other teams for more players as well.
The only problem is that the Bobcats want to avoid paying too much salary, but with that team, they wouyld still be way under the luxury tax threshold and I am sure their atendance and revnue share would go up. That is a great team. |
i feel that trading both amare and marion is insane, but they will probably trade one of them soon. their owner flat out doesn't want to pay luxury tax under any circumstance. that is why they traded away Joe johnson, i know diaw is good, but johnson is a true-allstar, and would be in any system. diaw is only as good as he is in pheonix is becuase of the system. but one of them will be traded.
next year they currently have 9 players under contract, and are spending 76mil. that is without any draft picks or other players. so i have a feeling that some people will be gone soon. |
They're salary is $76 million, the LT is likely $68 million next year, so they need to cut $8 million dollars WHILE ADDING at least 5 more players.
They can't trade Diaw, because no one will take him...his contract sucks that bad for the production he would bring. So it comes down to trading any combination of Marion, Barbosa, and Amare to a team under the cap so that the Suns can take back LESS salary in the trade. Again, that limits the field of teams to Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto, Orlando, Memphis, and New Orleans. The one with the most cap space, and therefore the most likely trading partner, is Charlotte.
I thought about it and the above trades dramatically helps Charlotte while instantly rebuidling Phoenix. Check out that proposed line-up again for Phoenix. Wallace would be their Marion. Wright and Noah would replace Amare. Knight would be the backup PG that Phoenix has needed...a guy who could probably average 5-7 assists as a back up in that system.
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Is it me or does Afflalo sound almost identical to Battier? Same strengths and weaknesses going into the draft.
LakerSanity, that info on the Suns is really surprising. What do you think the chances are that they decide to keep their players and take the tax hit? |
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