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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:12 am    Post subject: Jay Huff Thread

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The Lakers announce they have signed Jay Huff out of the University of Virginia with their final two-way roster spot.


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The 7-1 center averaged 13 pts, 7 reb and 2.5 blocks for UVA last season and was an ACC All-Defensive Team selection.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 am    Post subject:

One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:33 am    Post subject:

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Huff was used as a Versatile Big at Virginia

🟡 38.6% 3PT shooter, pick & pop and spot up threat
🟣 Strong finisher around the rim (80% FG% at rim on non-post ups)
🟡 21st highest defensive impact of the 15,338 NCAA players from 2013-21 who played 500+ minutes in a season.


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His frequent post ups were mediocre, but I don't expect he'll do much of that in LA.

I've seen him play in games live for Virginia but haven't recently reviewed any film.

And I used sDRAPM for the D impact number. His sRAPM (overall impact) was UVA's best in the past 7 seasons.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject:

So the answer finally comes out to what our FO was smoking? #ThatsHuff💯


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:04 am    Post subject:

so we traded Ayayi for Huff, lol
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:32 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:52 am    Post subject:

Looks interesting. Can’t wait to see him play a couple games this season when needed.

Finally a developmental Center in the pipeline.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:43 pm    Post subject:

More deserving than Chaundee or Queen for the final 2-way?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:57 pm    Post subject:

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More deserving than Chaundee or Queen for the final 2-way?


Seems like a positional need situation. We have no stretch bigs.

Where did this kid come from? Was he on a 2-way previously or just UFA?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.


Let see, they say same thing about Luka and he torching foos
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:51 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.


Let see, they say same thing about Luka and he torching foos


Umm, Luka was the 3rd pick in the draft after being a dominant player in the Euro leagues since, oh, childhood. There was never any serious doubt that he was going to make it in the NBA. Doubts that he'd be one of the most dominant players in the league? Sure. But no doubt he was an NBA caliber talent.

Huff was undrafted and remained unsigned last season. And then got waived a couple weeks after a bad team got a look at him. So yeah, I'd say calling him a long shot to make the NBA is accurate and comparing him to Luka is absurd.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:51 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
so we traded Ayayi for Huff, lol
Step up IMO
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:36 am    Post subject:

RG73 wrote:
governator wrote:
activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.


Let see, they say same thing about Luka and he torching foos


Umm, Luka was the 3rd pick in the draft after being a dominant player in the Euro leagues since, oh, childhood. There was never any serious doubt that he was going to make it in the NBA. Doubts that he'd be one of the most dominant players in the league? Sure. But no doubt he was an NBA caliber talent.

Huff was undrafted and remained unsigned last season. And then got waived a couple weeks after a bad team got a look at him. So yeah, I'd say calling him a long shot to make the NBA is accurate and comparing him to Luka is absurd.


doubt that he was too slow
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject:

https://youtu.be/wea3p_gy1S8

Long and have touch, but see some similarity with Pau. Need to work on moving his feet better, but I like what I saw better than ayayi at least.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject:

RG73 wrote:
governator wrote:
activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.


Let see, they say same thing about Luka and he torching foos


Umm, Luka was the 3rd pick in the draft after being a dominant player in the Euro leagues since, oh, childhood. There was never any serious doubt that he was going to make it in the NBA. Doubts that he'd be one of the most dominant players in the league? Sure. But no doubt he was an NBA caliber talent.

Huff was undrafted and remained unsigned last season. And then got waived a couple weeks after a bad team got a look at him. So yeah, I'd say calling him a long shot to make the NBA is accurate and comparing him to Luka is absurd.


Comparing Huff to Luka is a head scratcher indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:52 am    Post subject:

would be nice to see a comparison to pau
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:59 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.


Let see, they say same thing about Luka and he torching foos


No they didn’t
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.

I watched the Huff video highlight clip a few posts up and other than the facial resemblance, I'm not seeing Kaminsky at all. This kid is definitely taller, and a LOT more impactful guarding the paint. Defensively speaking alone, he seems to be a huge upgrade over Kaminsky.

Of course scoring and play making may be a different story, but it'd be nice if Huff can develop into a decent NBA paint defender off the bench.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:27 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
governator wrote:
activeverb wrote:
governator wrote:
One wing one big, all good, let’s go but this dude got potential?


He's an intriguing player. He's 7-1 and can shoot from long distance and block shots.

The questions seem to revolve around whether he is strong enough or fast enough to play in the NBA.

From what I've read, he was decent in summer league but did not stand out.

He seems to be a poor man's Frank Kaminsky. Probably a long shot to make it to the NBA and stick.


Let see, they say same thing about Luka and he torching foos


No they didn’t


https://www.si.com/nba/2018/05/15/luka-doncic-highlights-scouting-report-stats-nba-draft
He will face an adjustment to the speed of NBA defenses, and it’s yet to be seen if his lack of elite explosiveness and burst will make things more difficult at the NBA level

https://www.ridiculousupside.com/2018/5/20/17372684/an-in-depth-look-at-elite-nba-draft-prospect-luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft
Doncic is not the most explosive player. He doesn’t use any dribble moves to get around his opponent, unlike what you see when he’s working as a shooter. His lack of explosiveness also hinders him when he’s closer to the rim because he does not have that second gear that allows other guards or wings to make strong finishes at the rim.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/luka-doncic/
Weaknesses: He can be considered magrinally average athlete by NBA standards … Not overly long, more of an average actually… His first step is slow even for European standrards … Not a very good leaper of one foot, his good jumps come of two feet

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2778816-luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft-scouting-report-for-dallas-mavericks-pick
Doncic lacks explosiveness for a guard or wing. He isn't a blow-by driver, which forces him to rely on lower-percentage shots away from the basket in isolation situations. It also causes him to over-dribble while teammates stand around.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:45 am    Post subject:

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https://www.si.com/nba/2018/05/15/luka-doncic-highlights-scouting-report-stats-nba-draft
He will face an adjustment to the speed of NBA defenses, and it’s yet to be seen if his lack of elite explosiveness and burst will make things more difficult at the NBA level

https://www.ridiculousupside.com/2018/5/20/17372684/an-in-depth-look-at-elite-nba-draft-prospect-luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft
Doncic is not the most explosive player. He doesn’t use any dribble moves to get around his opponent, unlike what you see when he’s working as a shooter. His lack of explosiveness also hinders him when he’s closer to the rim because he does not have that second gear that allows other guards or wings to make strong finishes at the rim.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/luka-doncic/
Weaknesses: He can be considered magrinally average athlete by NBA standards … Not overly long, more of an average actually… His first step is slow even for European standrards … Not a very good leaper of one foot, his good jumps come of two feet

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2778816-luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft-scouting-report-for-dallas-mavericks-pick
Doncic lacks explosiveness for a guard or wing. He isn't a blow-by driver, which forces him to rely on lower-percentage shots away from the basket in isolation situations. It also causes him to over-dribble while teammates stand around.


You are moving goal posts here. None of those said Luka wasn't going to make the NBA.

Some choice quotes from your links:

"Although there’s absolutely no doubt of him being a solid offensive player, his work on the other end of the floor is probably the biggest question mark."

"Luka Doncic is a by all measures a prodigy..."

"A prodigious playmaker and basketball savant..."

So, to repeat, there was never any doubt Luka was going to make it as an NBA player. The concern was that he would lack the athleticism to, well, do exactly what he's been doing the last 3 seasons. In other words, would Luka's (perceived) weaknesses hold him back from being an elite NBA player? Here, with Huff, the question is whether he has the athletic ability to even be an NBA player.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:57 am    Post subject:

RG73 wrote:
governator wrote:


https://www.si.com/nba/2018/05/15/luka-doncic-highlights-scouting-report-stats-nba-draft
He will face an adjustment to the speed of NBA defenses, and it’s yet to be seen if his lack of elite explosiveness and burst will make things more difficult at the NBA level

https://www.ridiculousupside.com/2018/5/20/17372684/an-in-depth-look-at-elite-nba-draft-prospect-luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft
Doncic is not the most explosive player. He doesn’t use any dribble moves to get around his opponent, unlike what you see when he’s working as a shooter. His lack of explosiveness also hinders him when he’s closer to the rim because he does not have that second gear that allows other guards or wings to make strong finishes at the rim.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/luka-doncic/
Weaknesses: He can be considered magrinally average athlete by NBA standards … Not overly long, more of an average actually… His first step is slow even for European standrards … Not a very good leaper of one foot, his good jumps come of two feet

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2778816-luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft-scouting-report-for-dallas-mavericks-pick
Doncic lacks explosiveness for a guard or wing. He isn't a blow-by driver, which forces him to rely on lower-percentage shots away from the basket in isolation situations. It also causes him to over-dribble while teammates stand around.


You are moving goal posts here. None of those said Luka wasn't going to make the NBA.

Some choice quotes from your links:

"Although there’s absolutely no doubt of him being a solid offensive player, his work on the other end of the floor is probably the biggest question mark."

"Luka Doncic is a by all measures a prodigy..."

"A prodigious playmaker and basketball savant..."

So, to repeat, there was never any doubt Luka was going to make it as an NBA player. The concern was that he would lack the athleticism to, well, do exactly what he's been doing the last 3 seasons. In other words, would Luka's (perceived) weaknesses hold him back from being an elite NBA player? Here, with Huff, the question is whether he has the athletic ability to even be an NBA player.


Not sure what goal post you're talking about, I was just replying that this prospect is viewed not athletically gifted which reminds me of Luka's reviewed.

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doubt that he was too slow
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:18 am    Post subject:

Imo, maybe dude being compared to Myles Turner is a better discussion. A stretch 5 who can defend and can be got with a THT/Nunn package in December.

To protect the AD investment, Turner as a 3&D 5 is the perfect pairing for our frontcourt. I take that dude over THT/Nunn by a myle. Till then, I’ll take a puff off the Huff pipe.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:47 pm    Post subject:

Myles is a lot more athletic though, and a few inches shorter. I'm thinking Huff is closer to the Brook Lopez archetype: a bit lumbering in his mobility, but good enough to get his blocks at the rim while draining some threes.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:25 am    Post subject:

The guy is a 7 foot Stretch 5 with shock blocking ability, yet for some reason hasn't gotten a call up look. Can't be much worse than Deandre Jordan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdzxEYurwZc

Why aren't we giving this guy a try with LeBron? Would probably benefit whatever offense we think we're supposed to have. And it will hopefully get AD to stop being the "three point shooting" role for a big.

That and Huff is known as a shot blocker, so why not give him some run with us? Worth a look imo.

Is he our 'savior'? No, of course not. But is he a better fit at 5 than Deandre Jordan currently is? Yeah I think so.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:38 am    Post subject:

This was more of a signing for the G league than the Lakers. I agree, I think he would be better than DJ. He's smart, pretty athletic, decent foot work and defender, could spread the floor, but the Lakers don't necessarily have a vision. Also, it wouldn't say that Vogel would actually play him. Vogel, to me doesn't have a good eye for useful talent on the team's (beyond Bron, AD, and now Westbrook) nor collectively putting them together. He doesn't get the best out of the team. He just throws players together and hope it works, rather than thinking about everyone's strengths and weaknesses. He looks to see if they are a vet for the most part.

Kent Bazemore provided absolutely nothing for us, and he kept him in the starting line up. He has played Rondo, Westbrook, and Bron at the same time. To start the 4th neither Bron, Westbrook, or AD was on the floor. Yesterday he had Austin Reaves just sitting on the bench. Doesn't matter how valuable he has been for us; good IQ, good defender, capable 3 point shooter and decision maker. He just sat him there, while we lost in triple OT. His rotations aren't some times bad, they are consistently bad.


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