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Lakerfan 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:28 pm Post subject: Ryan West Promoted To Director Of Player Personnel |
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Quote: | By Eric Pincus
Los Angeles Lakers Jerry West Washington Wizards Shaquille O'Neal Memphis Grizzlies
The Lakers have promoted Ryan West to director of player personnel.
West, formerly the team's assistant director of scouting, started as a scout for the team in 2009. He also worked as a scout for the Memphis Grizzlies for almost eight years.
A team spokesman confirmed West's change in title, although an official announcement won't be made until September.
Along with Jesse Buss, the Lakers' director of scouting, West was a driving force in the draft-day trade with the Washington Wizards for guard Jordan Clarkson. |
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-ryan-west-director-player-personnel-20150823-story.html |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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That should make the "Jim Buss shouldn't be director of player personnel" people happy. Great for West, his career seems to be on the rise. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Purp 32 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Wasn't that Jimmy's position? |
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legend825 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm.... don't think so. I think it used to be. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I like that.
Jim Buss' position is executive vice president of basketball operations. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Fwiw, Sam Presti followed a similar track with san antonio. Sassistant director of scouting to director of player personnel. Then on to assistant gm, before jumping to okc as gm. |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: |
Jim Buss' position is executive vice president of basketball operations. |
That is correct per the Media Guide from the 2014 - 2015 Season.
2014 - 2015 Media Guide
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Ownership
Majority Owner Buss Family Trusts
Co-Owner Philip F. Anschutz
Co-Owner Edward P. Roski, Jr.
Co-Owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
Director Dan Beckerman
Executive
President / Governor Jeanie Buss
Executive Vice President, CEO, Director Francis R. Mariani
Executive Vice President, Corporate Development Johnny Buss
Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations / Alternate Governor Jim Buss
Senior Vice President of Legal Affairs / Secretary Jim Perzik
General Counsel Dan Grigsby
Senior Vice President, Finance, CFO Joe McCormack
Senior Vice President, Business Operations, CO O Tim Harris
Vice President Earvin Johnson
Basketball Operations
General Manager Mitch Kupchak
Assistant General Manager Glenn Carraro
President & CEO, LA D-Fenders / Alternate Governor Joey Buss
Head Coach Byron Scott
Assistant Coach Paul Pressey, Jim Eyen, Mark Madsen
Assistant Coach / Head Advance NBA Scout Clay Moser
Assistant Coach / Director, Player Development Larry Lewis
Assistant Coach / Player Development Thomas Scott
Special Assistant to the General Manager / Basketball Consultant Bill Bertka
Director, Player Development Rondre Jackson
Director, Scouting Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting Ryan West
College Scout Kevin Grevey, Charles Osborne, Irving Thomas
International Scout Antonio Maceiras
Video Coordinator / Coach Tom Bialaszewski
Video Coordinator / Player Development J.J. Outlaw
Basketball Operations Assistant Jordan Wilkes
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It appears that West has been promoted to a newly created position. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Bard207 wrote: | danzag wrote: |
Jim Buss' position is executive vice president of basketball operations. |
That is correct per the Media Guide from the 2014 - 2015 Season.
2014 - 2015 Media Guide
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Ownership
Majority Owner Buss Family Trusts
Co-Owner Philip F. Anschutz
Co-Owner Edward P. Roski, Jr.
Co-Owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
Director Dan Beckerman
Executive
President / Governor Jeanie Buss
Executive Vice President, CEO, Director Francis R. Mariani
Executive Vice President, Corporate Development Johnny Buss
Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations / Alternate Governor Jim Buss
Senior Vice President of Legal Affairs / Secretary Jim Perzik
General Counsel Dan Grigsby
Senior Vice President, Finance, CFO Joe McCormack
Senior Vice President, Business Operations, CO O Tim Harris
Vice President Earvin Johnson
Basketball Operations
General Manager Mitch Kupchak
Assistant General Manager Glenn Carraro
President & CEO, LA D-Fenders / Alternate Governor Joey Buss
Head Coach Byron Scott
Assistant Coach Paul Pressey, Jim Eyen, Mark Madsen
Assistant Coach / Head Advance NBA Scout Clay Moser
Assistant Coach / Director, Player Development Larry Lewis
Assistant Coach / Player Development Thomas Scott
Special Assistant to the General Manager / Basketball Consultant Bill Bertka
Director, Player Development Rondre Jackson
Director, Scouting Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting Ryan West
College Scout Kevin Grevey, Charles Osborne, Irving Thomas
International Scout Antonio Maceiras
Video Coordinator / Coach Tom Bialaszewski
Video Coordinator / Player Development J.J. Outlaw
Basketball Operations Assistant Jordan Wilkes
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It appears that West has been promoted to a newly created position. |
No, it was just held by assistant coach Larry Lewis. |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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24 wrote: | Bard207 wrote: | danzag wrote: |
Jim Buss' position is executive vice president of basketball operations. |
That is correct per the Media Guide from the 2014 - 2015 Season.
2014 - 2015 Media Guide
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Ownership
Majority Owner Buss Family Trusts
Co-Owner Philip F. Anschutz
Co-Owner Edward P. Roski, Jr.
Co-Owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
Director Dan Beckerman
Executive
President / Governor Jeanie Buss
Executive Vice President, CEO, Director Francis R. Mariani
Executive Vice President, Corporate Development Johnny Buss
Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations / Alternate Governor Jim Buss
Senior Vice President of Legal Affairs / Secretary Jim Perzik
General Counsel Dan Grigsby
Senior Vice President, Finance, CFO Joe McCormack
Senior Vice President, Business Operations, CO O Tim Harris
Vice President Earvin Johnson
Basketball Operations
General Manager Mitch Kupchak
Assistant General Manager Glenn Carraro
President & CEO, LA D-Fenders / Alternate Governor Joey Buss
Head Coach Byron Scott
Assistant Coach Paul Pressey, Jim Eyen, Mark Madsen
Assistant Coach / Head Advance NBA Scout Clay Moser
Assistant Coach / Director, Player Development Larry Lewis
Assistant Coach / Player Development Thomas Scott
Special Assistant to the General Manager / Basketball Consultant Bill Bertka
Director, Player Development Rondre Jackson
Director, Scouting Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting Ryan West
College Scout Kevin Grevey, Charles Osborne, Irving Thomas
International Scout Antonio Maceiras
Video Coordinator / Coach Tom Bialaszewski
Video Coordinator / Player Development J.J. Outlaw
Basketball Operations Assistant Jordan Wilkes
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It appears that West has been promoted to a newly created position. |
No, it was just held by assistant coach Larry Lewis. |
All we can do is disagree because I think that Assistant Coach / Director Player Development and Director of Player Personnel are different positions within the organization.
I think of Assistant Coach / Director Player Development as a position with a fair amount of time spent working with directly with players while I think of the position (Director of Player Personnel) that West is getting is more of a Front Office position with less contact with players which fits his background of scouting and working in the Front Office. |
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legend825 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think it was a good move to promote him and keep him inside the family. |
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Rawr Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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So Ryan gets more power and nobody else has a position change.
Organizational power is a zero sum game.
Somebody is forcing Jim into a lesser role. _________________ You are either in or on your way to the NBA Finals. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | So Ryan gets more power and nobody else has a position change.
Organizational power is a zero sum game.
Somebody is forcing Jim into a lesser role. |
Huh? The guy works for jim. |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Other teams are interested in Ryan, so they bumped his title and pay. |
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lukewaltonsdad Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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fiendishoc wrote: | Other teams are interested in Ryan, so they bumped his title and pay. |
Exactly. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats RW; great move by the FO! |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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lukewaltonsdad wrote: | fiendishoc wrote: | Other teams are interested in Ryan, so they bumped his title and pay. |
Exactly. |
And it was the right thing to do. Next, that Assistant GM position. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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nomoreshaq Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bard207 wrote: | danzag wrote: |
Jim Buss' position is executive vice president of basketball operations. |
That is correct per the Media Guide from the 2014 - 2015 Season.
2014 - 2015 Media Guide
Quote: |
Ownership
Majority Owner Buss Family Trusts
Co-Owner Philip F. Anschutz
Co-Owner Edward P. Roski, Jr.
Co-Owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
Director Dan Beckerman
Executive
President / Governor Jeanie Buss
Executive Vice President, CEO, Director Francis R. Mariani
Executive Vice President, Corporate Development Johnny Buss
Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations / Alternate Governor Jim Buss
Senior Vice President of Legal Affairs / Secretary Jim Perzik
General Counsel Dan Grigsby
Senior Vice President, Finance, CFO Joe McCormack
Senior Vice President, Business Operations, CO O Tim Harris
Vice President Earvin Johnson
Basketball Operations
General Manager Mitch Kupchak
Assistant General Manager Glenn Carraro
President & CEO, LA D-Fenders / Alternate Governor Joey Buss
Head Coach Byron Scott
Assistant Coach Paul Pressey, Jim Eyen, Mark Madsen
Assistant Coach / Head Advance NBA Scout Clay Moser
Assistant Coach / Director, Player Development Larry Lewis
Assistant Coach / Player Development Thomas Scott
Special Assistant to the General Manager / Basketball Consultant Bill Bertka
Director, Player Development Rondre Jackson
Director, Scouting Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting Ryan West
College Scout Kevin Grevey, Charles Osborne, Irving Thomas
International Scout Antonio Maceiras
Video Coordinator / Coach Tom Bialaszewski
Video Coordinator / Player Development J.J. Outlaw
Basketball Operations Assistant Jordan Wilkes
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It appears that West has been promoted to a newly created position. |
magic is still part of the lakers?
where's rudy t? |
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legend825 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Rudy T is a scout as far as I know |
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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Great move. Gives him more power in the organization than Jesse who he used to report to. |
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Arbitrary Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome! |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:42 am Post subject: |
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nomoreshaq wrote: | Bard207 wrote: | danzag wrote: |
Jim Buss' position is executive vice president of basketball operations. |
That is correct per the Media Guide from the 2014 - 2015 Season.
2014 - 2015 Media Guide
Quote: |
Ownership
Majority Owner Buss Family Trusts
Co-Owner Philip F. Anschutz
Co-Owner Edward P. Roski, Jr.
Co-Owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
Director Dan Beckerman
Executive
President / Governor Jeanie Buss
Executive Vice President, CEO, Director Francis R. Mariani
Executive Vice President, Corporate Development Johnny Buss
Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations / Alternate Governor Jim Buss
Senior Vice President of Legal Affairs / Secretary Jim Perzik
General Counsel Dan Grigsby
Senior Vice President, Finance, CFO Joe McCormack
Senior Vice President, Business Operations, CO O Tim Harris
Vice President Earvin Johnson
Basketball Operations
General Manager Mitch Kupchak
Assistant General Manager Glenn Carraro
President & CEO, LA D-Fenders / Alternate Governor Joey Buss
Head Coach Byron Scott
Assistant Coach Paul Pressey, Jim Eyen, Mark Madsen
Assistant Coach / Head Advance NBA Scout Clay Moser
Assistant Coach / Director, Player Development Larry Lewis
Assistant Coach / Player Development Thomas Scott
Special Assistant to the General Manager / Basketball Consultant Bill Bertka
Director, Player Development Rondre Jackson
Director, Scouting Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting Ryan West
College Scout Kevin Grevey, Charles Osborne, Irving Thomas
International Scout Antonio Maceiras
Video Coordinator / Coach Tom Bialaszewski
Video Coordinator / Player Development J.J. Outlaw
Basketball Operations Assistant Jordan Wilkes
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It appears that West has been promoted to a newly created position. |
magic is still part of the lakers?
where's rudy t? |
Magic sold his share of the Lakers in 2010, to Patrick Soon-Shiong, but kept his role as an unpaid vice-president. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Good to see West being kept in house. Hopefully we get some of Jerry West's um..."unofficial" suggestions about guys. IIRC Jerry was high on DLO. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Tark the Shark wrote: | Great move. Gives him more power in the organization than Jesse who he used to report to. |
Power inside of organizations doesn't necessarily flow from titles, and shuffling them around doesn't always change the actual hierarchy. I sense that while Jesse has a say and solid involvement, Ryan wasn't stalled or minimized by reporting to him on an official basis, since all of them regularly talk with Mitch. |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:03 am Post subject: |
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^ Either way it's good to see people rise in the ranks as a result of talent, not nepotism (assuming Jerry West didn't convince Jimbo to give Ryan a promotion ). |
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