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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject:

Brian Davis is a real-estate developer. News reports didn't say he bought the 70 percent, but rather that he led a group of buyers, including Christian Laetnner, which whom he has done real estate deals.


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What does former Duke Player, Brian Davis do that he can afford to buy 70% of the Grizz?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject:

Apparently, West makes a lot of money and the Grizzles lost $40 million last year, so cost-cutting is probably the group's first move. And honestly, West really has been particularly successful during his tenure at Memphis.




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Who in their right mind buys a basketball team, and in their first move, fires Jerry West?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject:

I imagine you meant to say that West hasnt been particularly successful in Memphis. I can see how that case can be made, but I think its wrong. No, they havent won a championship. But, West has made Memphis into a perennial playoff team. They were a failed franchise before West. Now they are respectable. In any case, without West, I think they will fall back to that status ... think GS Warriors without the history.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject:

Why do I have the sick feeling that if J west does get fired. Somehow....Shaq, Wade and Riles will come up with a way to get Jwest as VP and RIles as head coach and GM


even if it means to keep him off of south beach's hands.... Mitch, jimmy, jeanie, and jerry must get jwest back at all costs
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject:

JD wrote:
There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of him coming back to the Lakers.

Welcome to reality.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject:

JD wrote:
There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of him coming back to the Lakers.

Welcome to reality.


There isn't a snowballs chance Phi Jackson would come back to the Lakers. Deal with Kobe who he called uncoachable?

Welcome to reality.

Whoops.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject:

West has one big hurdle in coming back.

The reason's he left are still here.

1- Phil Jackson. West can NOT really work with a coach that expects so much of the roster kept in a certain manner.

2- Jimmy Buss. If I recall he had an issue with the amount of power he was getting and wanted his right hand man - Mitch Kupchak - to inherit the GM position.

3- Pressure of being a Laker GM vs a franchise like Memphis. Pressure? That was actually the biggest reason West mentioned for his departure. He didn't like the pressure of running a franchise in the stature of the Lakers.

I don't see it. The hurdles are still there. You guys would have to remove Jackson and Buss Jr. out of the picture to get him even thinking of coming back IMO. Infact, knowing Kupchak he'd be willing to step aside for West. The problem is that I never see West wanting to work under Buss Jr. (Like Mitch is) and meet the needs of Phil Jackson.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject:

bring West in dangit....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject:

Jerry West is not coming back here. Jerry West believes in order, and he believes in a clear chain of command. Before Phil Jackson came here, the only person with veto powers over him was Dr. Buss. Now you have Phil Jackson, and you have the added complication of Jimmy Buss, whom Dr. Buss has made it clear he is grooming.

Plus, unlike most of us, Jerry West has the utmost respect for Mitch Kupchak, whom he groomed and often credits for making the blockbuster acquisitions like Shaq and Kobe work with the numbers.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject:

STiG909 wrote:
Jerry West is a Laker for life, I've always had the feeling he'll be back with the orginization some day.



West left on his own. He wasn't fired. He's not coming back. Get over it. Just wishful thinking.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject:

TLT wrote:
STiG909 wrote:
Jerry West is a Laker for life, I've always had the feeling he'll be back with the orginization some day.



West left on his own. He wasn't fired. He's not coming back. Get over it. Just wishful thinking.


He'll be back. They all come back.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject:

There is no question in my mind, Jerry West is the best! Anything to get him back in the Laker family would be a big plus
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
I WANT HIM BACK.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject:

Jerry West will have plenty of offers, but I think he will retire.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject:

Jerry West coming back here would be the best thing to happen to this franchise in a long time....he would help big time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject:

Lakers999 wrote:
Why do I have the sick feeling that if J west does get fired. Somehow....Shaq, Wade and Riles will come up with a way to get Jwest as VP and RIles as head coach and GM


even if it means to keep him off of south beach's hands.... Mitch, jimmy, jeanie, and jerry must get jwest back at all costs




That would be terrible, and I could see it happening.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject:

if he would only come back as before, in a consultative role, so that he could provide his protege, mitch, with meaningful trade prospects and scenarios...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject:

Ataris_PunK wrote:
JD wrote:
There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of him coming back to the Lakers.

Welcome to reality.


There isn't a snowballs chance Phi Jackson would come back to the Lakers. Deal with Kobe who he called uncoachable?

Welcome to reality.

Whoops.


I never said there wasn't a snowball's chance of Phil coming back. That situation required growth from individuals to happen.

There's a multitude of reasons why Jerry is not coming back.

Kid yourself, all you want. Live in fantasy land. But, it ain't happening.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:51 am    Post subject:

As you might surmise from my screen name, I would love to see Jerry West back with the Lakers, and I think the organization should move heaven and earth to make it happen. Not to replace Kupchak (West would never agree to that), but just in a consulting capacity. West never should have been allowed to leave in the first place, that was one of the saddest moments in the history of the franchise. He is a Laker thru and thru and always will be (in fact, I don't even get why this thread was moved off the main discussion board - West is still a Laker at heart you can believe that - he's not "non-Laker related").

All that said, it won't happen for all the reasons others have mentioned in this thread. And of course even if it did, ol' JW isn't getting any younger. This once again illustrates the tenuous position at the top of the Laker hierarchy once Dr. Buss' reign comes to an end. Jim Buss has awful big shoes to fill. What role will Jeanie play? And most disconcerting, where does Jeanie's boyfriend, that master of manipulation, fit into the whole thing? Don't think the thought hasn't run thru his mind, despite his past lame protestations to the contrary.

Like Mr. Zimmerman sang, the times, they are a-changin'.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject:

A little more info:

Laettner, ex-Duke teammate to buy majority stake in Grizzlies
Oct. 2, 2006
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- An investment group that includes Christian Laettner and his former Duke teammate Brian Davis has reached an agreement to buy 70 percent of the Memphis Grizzlies.

Billionaire Michael Heisley announced Monday that he agreed to sell his majority share to the group.

Davis said at a news conference that the sale was worth about $360 million, and he and Laettner are putting a total of $40 million of their own money into the project. The remainder will come from investors he did not identify, but Davis said he has lined up the money for the purchase.

Davis said Laettner also will be talking to the Grizzlies about coming back to play. Laettner, a first-round pick of Minnesota in 1992, has not played in the NBA since the 2004-05 season with the Miami Heat.

Davis, who played in four Final Fours while at Duke from 1989-92, said he wants Jerry West and coach Mike Fratello to stay with the Grizzlies.

The transaction will take several months to complete because the minority owners have the right of first refusal for 60 days from the date they are notified. The sale also must be approved by the NBA, and Heisley said he expects to remain with the team for several months.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject:

^ Thanks for posting that Tach. Davis says he wants West to remain. If that's true I'm happy for JW, and Davis has made a wise first move as owner.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject:

JD wrote:
Ataris_PunK wrote:
JD wrote:
There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of him coming back to the Lakers.

Welcome to reality.


There isn't a snowballs chance Phi Jackson would come back to the Lakers. Deal with Kobe who he called uncoachable?

Welcome to reality.

Whoops.


I never said there wasn't a snowball's chance of Phil coming back. That situation required growth from individuals to happen.

There's a multitude of reasons why Jerry is not coming back.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject:

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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) - An investment group that includes Christian Laettner and his former Duke teammate Brian Davis has reached an agreement to buy 70 percent of the Memphis Grizzlies.

Billionaire Michael Heisley announced Monday that he agreed to sell his majority share to the group.
Davis said at a news conference that the sale was worth about $360 million, and he and Laettner are putting a total of $40 million of their own money into the project. The remainder will come from investors he did not identify, but Davis said he has lined up the money for the purchase.

Davis said Laettner also will be talking to the Grizzlies about coming back to play. Laettner, a first-round pick of Minnesota in 1992, has not played in the NBA since the 2004-05 season with the Miami Heat.

Davis, who played in four Final Fours while at Duke from 1989-92, said he wants Jerry West and coach Mike Fratello to stay with the Grizzlies.

The transaction will take several months to complete because the minority owners have the right of first refusal for 60 days from the date they are notified. The sale also must be approved by the NBA, and Heisley said he expects to remain with the team for several months.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject:

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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) - An investment group that includes Christian Laettner and his former Duke teammate Brian Davis has reached an agreement to buy 70 percent of the Memphis Grizzlies.

Billionaire Michael Heisley announced Monday that he agreed to sell his majority share to the group.
Davis said at a news conference that the sale was worth about $360 million, and he and Laettner are putting a total of $40 million of their own money into the project. The remainder will come from investors he did not identify, but Davis said he has lined up the money for the purchase.

Davis said Laettner also will be talking to the Grizzlies about coming back to play. Laettner, a first-round pick of Minnesota in 1992, has not played in the NBA since the 2004-05 season with the Miami Heat.

Davis, who played in four Final Fours while at Duke from 1989-92, said he wants Jerry West and coach Mike Fratello to stay with the Grizzlies.

The transaction will take several months to complete because the minority owners have the right of first refusal for 60 days from the date they are notified. The sale also must be approved by the NBA, and Heisley said he expects to remain with the team for several months.
Exactly, West will remain GM, but his position as team president will be eliminated.
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