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Jellojigglin Star Player
Joined: 18 May 2001 Posts: 1548 Location: Venice, California
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Is anyone going to bet the ranch in Vegas that we win it all? Just remember other teams can have injuries and setbacks... _________________ "Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even" |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Jellojigglin wrote: | Is anyone going to bet the ranch in Vegas that we win it all? Just remember other teams can have injuries and setbacks... |
Everyone in the all star game would need to get hurt for that. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would put a couple of dimes on the over but i dont like to wait like almost a year to make a couple of grand. Plus I dont like gambling. Winning will only entice me to gamble more. lol. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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DanielKetch Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Now that we locked up Caruso, I can safely say that we are now a legit team. |
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trablos Star Player
Joined: 10 May 2017 Posts: 3020
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I want to know what kind of goal Luke and co. is communicating to our roster this coming season. Last year it was "not to win, but develop and get better". I am of the mindset that our goal should be to compete with the best teams every season. That means making the playoffs and going as far as possible. Do we even have a shot in hell at the WCF let along the playoffs? Probably not. But if you get the guys buying in to that goal, and nobody is intimidated by an ambitious target, then we are much more likely to reach the playoffs as opposed to if our goal was to "just compete". Reach for the stars and you might get to the moon. |
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kwase Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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To me the most important thing is that we have a team worth watching. We're not going to win the championship every year. We went an entire decade during the 90's and didn't win it all, but the team was exciting and we had players that we could get behind and support. These last 3 years have not been watchable. In fact, it's been downright painful and at times laughable. But now I can at least see a flicker of light and hope. I'm curious to see what this team can do together and, most importantly the Lakers are no longer a joke. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144474 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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SGVL1 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | KBH wrote: | It depends on what you mean by legit. I think we'll likely be better than last year. |
Definitely more watchable. They will compete on a nightly basis. |
That's what we said last year when Luke was hired .... |
And we did for 20 games _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Inverse Star Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 2069
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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What teams will be fighting for the 7th and 8th seed? IMO here are the projected standings:
1. GSW
2. HOU
3. SAS
4. OKC
5. MIN
6. NOP
7. LAC
8. MEM
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9. POR
10. DEN
11. UTAH
12. LAL
13. SAC
14. DAL
15. PHX
I think what it essentially comes down to is injuries. Teams like Memphis/Clippers/New Orleans have historically been plagued by injuries. If guys like Anthony Davis/Marc Gasol/Conley/Griffin go down for extended periods of time, their teams can lose significant ground in the playoff picture in the competitive west. That essentially opens up 3 possible positions for the teams right outside the top 8 to sneak in
Personally, I'm not sold on Denver yet, and Utah has regressed significantly by losing their two best players from last year.
With all that being said, the Lakers have a great chance to surprise everyone and sneak into the playoffs. They now have 2 all-star caliber players in their starting lineup. This year will be KCP's coming out party. A lot of casual NBA fans have never even heard of the guy, which goes to show you the importance of these players playing in a big market.
We have an impact rookie who will make a difference, along with a hungry PF who is entering a contract year.
Right now, I give the Lakers a 40% chance to make the playoffs. However, if they are able to sign Rondo, I would be genuinely surprised if they miss out on a top 8 seed. _________________ He's my GOAT |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 17886
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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The Lonzo effect is real fellas. Enjoy the ride. |
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lakersboy Star Player
Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 8518 Location: Left coast
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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2 years ago they were handling the Warriors in the pre season game that was canceled early. That same season they beat them once, and last year they did it again, to all of our surprise. Something about this squad at times matches up to the Warriors. The Warriors are the best, but the Lakers will only get closer to their level as time goes by. Unlike the last 2 years, I'll expect at least 1 win against them. Their style of play will be surprise any team that doesn't bring their A game.
For sure there's improvements from Ingram, pg, sg, and center. Soon the veteran's improvement we've heard of will be further aided by 'Zo. Kuzma is real. Hart is solid. The squad is full of talented mix and match pieces. Other than backup pg, I see no holes.
Defensive ability has grown with the change of personnel.
People are sleeping on these guys, even many who root for them. |
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noahp45 Star Player
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 6572 Location: Oceanside Ca
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Inverse wrote: | What teams will be fighting for the 7th and 8th seed? IMO here are the projected standings:
1. GSW
2. HOU
3. SAS
4. OKC
5. MIN
6. NOP
7. LAC
8. MEM
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9. POR
10. DEN
11. UTAH
12. LAL
13. SAC
14. DAL
15. PHX
I think what it essentially comes down to is injuries. Teams like Memphis/Clippers/New Orleans have historically been plagued by injuries. If guys like Anthony Davis/Marc Gasol/Conley/Griffin go down for extended periods of time, their teams can lose significant ground in the playoff picture in the competitive west. That essentially opens up 3 possible positions for the teams right outside the top 8 to sneak in
Personally, I'm not sold on Denver yet, and Utah has regressed significantly by losing their two best players from last year.
With all that being said, the Lakers have a great chance to surprise everyone and sneak into the playoffs. They now have 2 all-star caliber players in their starting lineup. This year will be KCP's coming out party. A lot of casual NBA fans have never even heard of the guy, which goes to show you the importance of these players playing in a big market.
We have an impact rookie who will make a difference, along with a hungry PF who is entering a contract year.
Right now, I give the Lakers a 40% chance to make the playoffs. However, if they are able to sign Rondo, I would be genuinely surprised if they miss out on a top 8 seed. |
I think the loss of Randolf was a huge blow to Memphis. I see them not winning a lot of games |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Memphis ain't making the playoffs anymore imo. They're older and get worse every year. Now they're an Marc/Conley injury away from being a top 10 lottery team.
1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Spurs
4. Thunder
5. Blazers
6. Wolves
7. Lakers
8. Pelicans
We got this fam. The Big Baller Brand will speak it into existence. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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underdogsgv Starting Rotation
Joined: 23 Jun 2016 Posts: 124 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think we'll win about 35 games, but we'll be entertaining and exciting as hell to watch, and a lot of our losses might be of the close variety. _________________ #32 is the greatest Laker ever. |
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yammy1688 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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5. MIN
6. NOP
7. LAC
8. MEM
minny and pelicans still have yet prove they can actually put the talent they have to win games.
clippers are worse
memphis worse.
we got a real shot at the playoffs!
young legs gonna win us a bunch |
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Daikatana Starting Rotation
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 664 Location: Jesus Loves You
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | Memphis ain't making the playoffs anymore imo. They're older and get worse every year. Now they're an Marc/Conley injury away from being a top 10 lottery team.
1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Spurs
4. Thunder
5. Blazers
6. Wolves
7. Lakers
8. Pelicans
We got this fam. The Big Baller Brand will speak it into existence. |
Yes! I shall too speak that into existence!
Except I will put the Lakers above the Wolves. _________________ The Gospel in a nutshell: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 |
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LakerSanity Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 33474 Location: Long Beach, California
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think if you took Butler off of Minnesota, they haven't improved externally at all. I think Teague is only a slight upgrade over Rubio, but they lost LaVine and Dunn. So, is the addition of Butler and the internal improvement from Wiggins/Towns enough to vault them from a lottery team to a top 5 seed? Maybe, but maybe not.
The locks for the playoffs (barring strange injuries) are these - GSW, SAS, HOU, OKC and LAC. I think the last three spots will be fought for between MIN, NOP, POR and UTA. I don't think DEN or MEM gets in. If I had to predict things right now, this would be my prediction.
1. GSW
2. HOU
3. SAS
4. OKC
5. LAC
6. MIN
7. POR
8. NOP
9. LAL
10. MEM
11. UTA
12. DEN
13. DAL
14. SAC
15. PHO _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:59 am Post subject: |
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50 wins. Good for 6th seed. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Practice wrote: | AllorNothing wrote: | This team's winning will be dependent on how randle will do this year. It's his 4th year, so he has higher expectations. If hes consistent scorer and plays some defense, we will improve greatly |
I think it's more dependent on our overall 3 point shooting and team defense, which Randle is of course a big part of. |
It would be awesome if Jules can shoot 33% from 3 but I think we're fine with Brooks shot alone. If KCP can be like Derozan in his 5th year we would really be legit. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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Jhin0821 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:23 am Post subject: |
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30-35 wins |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | We have greatly improved imo. |
We are improved, I could see another 8-9 win increase as we did last season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: |
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32-38 wins for us. I don't think that's consider greatly but it's certainly in the right direction. |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:26 am Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | 32-38 wins for us. I don't think that's consider greatly but it's certainly in the right direction. |
bigly improved |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Lets just wait for the ESPN predictions. They are always so much closer than we are. |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:36 am Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | I think if you took Butler off of Minnesota, they haven't improved externally at all. I think Teague is only a slight upgrade over Rubio, but they lost LaVine and Dunn. So, is the addition of Butler and the internal improvement from Wiggins/Towns enough to vault them from a lottery team to a top 5 seed? Maybe, but maybe not.
The locks for the playoffs (barring strange injuries) are these - GSW, SAS, HOU, OKC and LAC. I think the last three spots will be fought for between MIN, NOP, POR and UTA. I don't think DEN or MEM gets in. If I had to predict things right now, this would be my prediction.
1. GSW
2. HOU
3. SAS
4. OKC
5. LAC
6. MIN
7. POR
8. NOP
9. LAL
10. MEM
11. UTA
12. DEN
13. DAL
14. SAC
15. PHO |
Seems low for Denver. 3rd year Jokic, and they added Milsap. Plus an extra year of experience for Murray, Harris, etc. Granted they lost Gallo, but I still don't see them being worse than they were last year.
Also seems way high for the Clippers (especially with Blake's injury history) and Portland |
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laker50 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:47 am Post subject: |
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This is a realistic prediction:
1. GSW
2. HOU
3. SAS
4. OKC
5. POR
6. LAC
7. MIN
8. LAL
9. NOP
The first four teams are expected.
Clippers with CP and Reddick are not the same.
MIN yet to jell.
See MIN, LAL, and NOP fighting for that last 8th spot.
Depends on who integrates the new players first and best.
And Lakers finding a capable backup PG to rest Lonzo. |
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