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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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BI is turning into a ball hog out there. Forces a lot more shots each possession. _________________ |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm trying to give Ingram the benefit of the doubt because it's so early in both the season and his career, but he really frustrates me. It's not even all his fault, which is sad. |
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GODBE Starting Rotation
Joined: 31 May 2016 Posts: 235
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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You simply can't play Ingram many minutes if you are trying to win games. He's the worst player on the team. Hurting the team on both sides of the ball.
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kobetimeeverytime Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Mamba mentality without the Mamba skillset |
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SocalDevin Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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He's too aggressive offensively.. He doesn't have to look as bad as he looks out there. He needs to stop forcing his looks. When he's forcing he doesn't look like he belongs in the NBA.
Unfortunately he's doing what he's been instructed to do. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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kobetimeeverytime wrote: | Mamba mentality without the Mamba skillset |
Exactly. And why? Cuz the front office and coaching staff want him to do this (bleep). _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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LakerSanity Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 33474 Location: Long Beach, California
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Geese. Absolutely no patience from you all. If you are going to come here and complain about every play, its going to be a long season. It's not like everyone else on the team is killing it. Everyone is taking their lumps. Sorry, but that's what happens when you draft young players. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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He and zo will have huge second half |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Geese. Absolutely no patience from you all. If you are going to come here and complain about every play, its going to be a long season. It's not like everyone else on the team is killing it. Everyone is taking their lumps. Sorry, but that's what happens when you draft young players. |
It's about how they're choosing to "develop" him. Obviously a young player will take his lumps. But encouraging dumb, black hole basketball isn't going to develop him into a better player. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Geese. Absolutely no patience from you all. If you are going to come here and complain about every play, its going to be a long season. It's not like everyone else on the team is killing it. Everyone is taking their lumps. Sorry, but that's what happens when you draft young players. |
It's about how they're choosing to "develop" him. Obviously a young player will take his lumps. But encouraging dumb, black hole basketball isn't going to develop him into a better player. |
And then there's his defense. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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It's really not his fault.. But he doesn't look good. If they directed him to play within the flow, that's what he'd do, and he'd look just fine. |
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LakerSanity Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 33474 Location: Long Beach, California
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I can't complain about Brandon's shots this game. He's just not making all of them. There was one fade away I wasn't happy with. The rest were decent looks.
I would hope that we aren't fed a narrative that we just keep repeating indiscriminately and irrespective of the actual reality.
As for defense, that will come too. Remember, the guy doesn't have a lot of strength. That limits him both offensively and defensively. But, the other problem is coaching. Its hard to kill Ingram for poor D when the entire team sucks at D. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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And the other side of the pendulum. Remember he’s just a baby! Inconsistenty is a hallmark of young players. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | And the other side of the pendulum. Remember he’s just a baby! Inconsistenty is a hallmark of young players. |
I don't want to harp on this because I have acknowledged how early it is for him, as well as the fact that it's not all his fault, but he's been pretty consistent so far this year. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | I can't complain about Brandon's shots this game. He's just not making all of them. There was one fade away I wasn't happy with. The rest were decent looks.
I would hope that we aren't fed a narrative that we just keep repeating indiscriminately and irrespective of the actual reality. |
I've been banned twice for being "too aggressive" in my defense of Ingram.. I'm the last one to dump on him..
He would be better served to just make a pass if a shot's not there, rather than trying to create one as often as he does. I don't think it's his fault though. He's been instructed to play that way. |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Magic not trading this stiff last summer will come back to haunt us |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Like Ingram a lot but remember the “I wouldn’t trade Ingram for Anthony Davis” discussions this summer? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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SocalDevin Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Like Ingram a lot but remember the “I wouldn’t trade Ingram for Anthony Davis” discussions this summer? |
So now we're going to revisit who we'd trade this guy or that guy for after they have a not so great performance? |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have traded Ingram for Lopez, LeVert and the 27th pick by this point.
If Paul George was being offered straight up for Ingram that may come back to haunt us.
Magic deciding to say "Nope, Ingram is untouchable, you can't have him for George." but saying "Our best young player from last year that fits perfectly next to Lonzo for a one year rental and a center Luke will have no clue how to utilize? You got it!" _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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ryan_c Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | I'd have traded Ingram for Lopez, LeVert and the 27th pick by this point. |
I will trade Levert for Ingram. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Now here we go with the silly trade scenarios. Predictable. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a mod.. But don't we have a thread for trades? Must you guys do this in the player thread whenever they have a not so great performance?? |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | I'm not a mod.. But don't we have a thread for trades? Must you guys do this in the player thread whenever they have a not so great performance?? |
We have a piss and moan thread as well. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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KBH Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | And the other side of the pendulum. Remember he’s just a baby! Inconsistenty is a hallmark of young players. |
While I don't necessarily disagree with this, Ingram is the only one of our young players who gets this excuse when it comes to defense. And it makes my eyes roll to the back of my head. If people talked about how we're clearly not playing good defense as a team, I'd be fine with it. But at the end of the day, guys need to perform. He performed against the Suns Friday, so he gets credit for that. But as a second year player, the kid gloves need to at least be slightly removed and all your deficiencies can't be dismissed as as being a baby. Ingram isn't the first one and done player ever drafted. |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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What the hell was going through his head to start the first half?
Can someone tell me if this was the same game he had vs. the Suns but he missed shots? Or was he just out of control bad like opening night? _________________ Austin Reaves
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