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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | if sarver insists on not trading with us, it doesn't really matter if the deal is dead. we're not getting ariza anyhow |
Buyout. But yeah, not via trade. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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chantruong wrote: | So Washington was willing to give up Oubre and a 2nd for Ariza
Let's give them KCP + Zubac/Lance/Bease for Oubre + Morris with no picks involved |
That would be a steal if Pelinka and Magic can pull it off, Markieff IMO is the talented Morris twin but he is playing in a bad system so his game and talent is being held back and of course we get the rich version of Nick Young for a bunch of scraps... |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Inverse wrote: | The most interesting thing about all of this is that oubre is available. |
Wizards don't want to pay him next year.
Lakers wouldn't be a landing spot because we wouldn't keep him. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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LakerMindLA wrote: | Inverse wrote: | The most interesting thing about all of this is that oubre is available. |
Wizards don't want to pay him next year.
Lakers wouldn't be a landing spot because we wouldn't keep him. |
Yeah. He’s gonna want to get paid. |
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JPaulK0n Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Pincus: It sounds like the front office of Phoenix was willing to do Ariza to LAL but that the owner was not (not uncommon an owner squashing a deal). That's me going off reports, think Woj had that, not my own reporting |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Could the old "Suns get Markelle Fultz, 76ers get KCP, Lakers get Trevor Ariza deal" (or some variation of) be back in play???? |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Could the old "Suns get Markelle Fultz, 76ers get KCP, Lakers get Trevor Ariza deal" (or some variation of) be back in play???? |
No.
And don’t think fultz was ever in play. |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | Inverse wrote: | The most interesting thing about all of this is that oubre is available. |
Wizards don't want to pay him next year.
Lakers wouldn't be a landing spot because we wouldn't keep him. |
Yeah. He’s gonna want to get paid. |
Considering the asking price, I don't think teams including the Lakers would mind getting him for a one year rental |
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PengShow Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Some of these owners are legit stupid, they're undermining their own front office by being petty fools. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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JPaulK0n wrote: | Quote: | Pincus: It sounds like the front office of Phoenix was willing to do Ariza to LAL but that the owner was not (not uncommon an owner squashing a deal). That's me going off reports, think Woj had that, not my own reporting |
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Emplay has it wrong, it was David Aldridge who reported it not Woj. |
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CantStopJM Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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chantruong wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | Inverse wrote: | The most interesting thing about all of this is that oubre is available. |
Wizards don't want to pay him next year.
Lakers wouldn't be a landing spot because we wouldn't keep him. |
Yeah. He’s gonna want to get paid. |
Considering the asking price, I don't think teams including the Lakers would mind getting him for a one year rental |
We have enough perimeter players that can't shoot. 31% from 3 on 4 attempts. I can't even imagine the damage Lonzo and Oubre would do to the rim. |
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Sago Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | JPaulK0n wrote: | Quote: | Pincus: It sounds like the front office of Phoenix was willing to do Ariza to LAL but that the owner was not (not uncommon an owner squashing a deal). That's me going off reports, think Woj had that, not my own reporting |
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Emplay has it wrong, it was David Aldridge who reported it not Woj. |
Booom. BREAKING NEWS by IG |
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10scott10 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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JPaulK0n wrote: | Quote: | Pincus: It sounds like the front office of Phoenix was willing to do Ariza to LAL but that the owner was not (not uncommon an owner squashing a deal). That's me going off reports, think Woj had that, not my own reporting |
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Yeah, Woj said it |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone thinks its possible that Sarver doesn’t want to trade with us because the Pope is not that great at 3s? |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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10scott10 wrote: | JPaulK0n wrote: | Quote: | Pincus: It sounds like the front office of Phoenix was willing to do Ariza to LAL but that the owner was not (not uncommon an owner squashing a deal). That's me going off reports, think Woj had that, not my own reporting |
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Yeah, Woj said it |
No he didn’t.. it was Aldridge
https://mobile.twitter.com/davidaldridgedc/status/1073781880498085888 |
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drae Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | chantruong wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | Inverse wrote: | The most interesting thing about all of this is that oubre is available. |
Wizards don't want to pay him next year.
Lakers wouldn't be a landing spot because we wouldn't keep him. |
Yeah. He’s gonna want to get paid. |
Considering the asking price, I don't think teams including the Lakers would mind getting him for a one year rental |
We have enough perimeter players that can't shoot. 31% from 3 on 4 attempts. I can't even imagine the damage Lonzo and Oubre would do to the rim. |
Also Oubre is a small forward. If someone were to speak with Ingram I think he'd say we have enough small forwards on the team, thank you very much. |
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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | CantStopJM wrote: | if sarver insists on not trading with us, it doesn't really matter if the deal is dead. we're not getting ariza anyhow |
Buyout. But yeah, not via trade. |
Technically Ariza could be traded again by the team the Suns traded him to but only in a 1 for 1 trade. So the team would have to want KCP straight up later on. Not sure if picks are allowed in trades like that. |
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CantStopJM Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Anyone thinks its possible that Sarver doesn’t want to trade with us because the Pope is not that great at 3s? |
They were never getting Pope in a proposed 3 way deal anyways. He doesn't want to trade with us because:
1) Tyson Chandler backlash
2) The city hates him right now for trying to potentially move the team so what better to get the fans on your side than to refuse to trade with their "rival". |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Anyone thinks its possible that Sarver doesn’t want to trade with us because the Pope is not that great at 3s? |
They were never getting Pope in a proposed 3 way deal anyways. He doesn't want to trade with us because:
1) Tyson Chandler backlash
2) The city hates him right now for trying to potentially move the team so what better to get the fans on your side than to refuse to trade with their "rival". |
Haha. I meant, maybe he doesn’t want to trade with us because by “Pope” he thought we were offering up The Pope. |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Anyone thinks its possible that Sarver doesn’t want to trade with us because the Pope is not that great at 3s? |
They were never getting Pope in a proposed 3 way deal anyways. He doesn't want to trade with us because:
1) Tyson Chandler backlash
2) The city hates him right now for trying to potentially move the team so what better to get the fans on your side than to refuse to trade with their "rival". |
You can add the Klutch connection as well |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Anyone thinks its possible that Sarver doesn’t want to trade with us because the Pope is not that great at 3s? |
They were never getting Pope in a proposed 3 way deal anyways. He doesn't want to trade with us because:
1) Tyson Chandler backlash
2) The city hates him right now for trying to potentially move the team so what better to get the fans on your side than to refuse to trade with their "rival". |
Or
3) Kobe ending the Suns run in 2010 |
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calistrtballr Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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F the suns! Go after oubre |
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drae Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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calistrtballr wrote: | F the suns! Go after oubre |
I'm very against this idea. He adds nothing to the team. |
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leor_77 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly, I'd rather swap KCP for a proven 3-point sniper. |
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DancingBarry Editor-in-Chief
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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So we know who Woj’s first source was on this trade, lol. |
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