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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject:

Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
Mike, if you had to predict, how much do you think Porzingis will develop this year? What do you think his chances are of being a top 5 pick?


I'd need to watch 5 games throughout his past season so I could see a pattern.

We all know he needs strength. He has a LOT of TWITCH to his game. That, tied to his length, footwork, speed, quickness, and vert., allows him to get away with a lot.

I watch him and it's like watching a different version of Kirilenko. Both skinny. Both with great twitch. Both with tremendous defensive abilities. Kirilenko had the IQ and the passing. Porzingis has the 3-point touch.

I don't think highly of the current elite prospects of the upcoming draft. Yeah, Okafor at #1, but the wing players just completely lack any real creativity offensively.

He's got a good shot at Top 5. I think he's a Phoenix Suns/GSW type of stretch PF. Speed, range, quickness, team defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:16 pm    Post subject:

okafor looked flabby and sick up until this summer. now he looks shredded as fuark. he might GOAT it up this season. lakers pls be awful enough to keep that pick

EDIT: https://vine.co/v/Ob3WnV5lUUd

muh diiiiiiiiiiiiickkkk

edit 2: okafor is getting a lot of "best since duncan" but he's not even a tenth of the defensive player duncan is. if anyone has duncan potential it's just embiid really. how that plays out depends on embiid's injuries
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject:

My money is invested in Towns, long, athletic(as athletic as almost any NBA big guy combine measurement wise) and skilled. He's as sure as a star as Anthony Davis was, but not quite the ceiling. Still a superstar. Bigger Kevin Love.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject:

Umm hezonja? Omg
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject:

Finally got around to watching Levert's scouting video. Pretty impressive, seems his weaknesses are very fixable. He seems like he's in the JJ/Roy mold.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:04 am    Post subject:

Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
Finally got around to watching Levert's scouting video. Pretty impressive, seems his weaknesses are very fixable. He seems like he's in the JJ/Roy mold.


That's why I like him. You can fix defensive posture and add strength. Everything else is there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject:

I can definitely see him flying up the board in no time this year. He'll probably be getting a bigger role now that Stauskas is gone, and he seems to be one of the very few true creating guards in this year's draft.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject:

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I understand that but if Randle does show that he can be a great player and we draft Okafor, then one will eventually have to be traded. Both are post players and neither are jump shooters or great defensively, wouldn't be a good fit. This is why I would want Stanley Johnson or Mudiay instead.


Disagree.

If Okafor and Randle get a midrange game, the talent is kept and the Lakers have a bigman advantage over the rest of the league.

I really don't like Mudiay. I think he's overrated.


Agree here. Randle needs to develop that jump-shot. Marc and Randolph work fine together, and why? Their both good mid-range shooters that don't crowd the paint when one is operating inside of that painted area. You add Randle's ability to be quicker, more dynamic, better handle than Randolph, and IMO, if you could add an Okafor with his size and length, that's a great front-court for years to come...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:52 am    Post subject:

Stanley Johnson is a Mater Dei player. Buyer beware. Those players in basketball have a reputation of being spoiled, overrated, busts.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject:

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It's not a strong PG class.


And there will be some decent FA young PGs available. I am a big BPA person, but if it is close between a point and another position, I hope they take the other position.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject:

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Stanley Johnson is a Mater Dei player. Buyer beware. Those players in basketball have a reputation of being spoiled, overrated, busts.


Went to the HS. Not a fan. They get excellent recruits that should be Div I NCAA studs. Not always the case.

Not a fan of McKnight.

It's like the players peak too early in HS, and don't know what the upside is when the effort is put in.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject:

porzingis lookin like a damn beast. woulddraft/10
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject:

I wanna see how Chris Walker and Kuran Iverson play this year after having rough freshman seasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject:

Is Kelly Oubre a more athletic Swaggy P?

Not just talking about his hair LOL.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:34 pm    Post subject:

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Is Kelly Oubre a more athletic Swaggy P?

Not just talking about his hair LOL.


Athletic Tracy Murray. Loves the jumpshot too much. Doesn't have the best ball-handling.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtnziNbKlk
mudiay's 2nd highlights from china
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:56 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Is Kelly Oubre a more athletic Swaggy P?

Not just talking about his hair LOL.


Athletic Tracy Murray. Loves the jumpshot too much. Doesn't have the best ball-handling.


Aaah ok.

Sounds like the perfect 3 and layup guy for Houston
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject:

Dunno if others feel this way, but the one year in a long time that I feel like we are going to have one of those top picks... every one in the top of the draft (or at least widely considered) have problems. It's just too bad that the Lakers couldn't be terrible in the year in which the draft is stocked with more projected stars.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtnziNbKlk
mudiay's 2nd highlights from china


I don't find it impressive at all. It looks like a scrimmage with high school kids.

Isn't there a limit to how much PT a professional player gets on the floor in Chinese basketball?

It certainly isn't pushing or advancing his skill level. He's just getting away with things.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:35 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtnziNbKlk
mudiay's 2nd highlights from china


I don't find it impressive at all. It looks like a scrimmage with high school kids.

Isn't there a limit to how much PT a professional player gets on the floor in Chinese basketball?

It certainly isn't pushing or advancing his skill level. He's just getting away with things.


those guys are much better than today's highschool competition. but at the same time, Marbury and Yi drop 30 a game over there.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:14 pm    Post subject:

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Mike@LG wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtnziNbKlk
mudiay's 2nd highlights from china


I don't find it impressive at all. It looks like a scrimmage with high school kids.

Isn't there a limit to how much PT a professional player gets on the floor in Chinese basketball?

It certainly isn't pushing or advancing his skill level. He's just getting away with things.


those guys are much better than today's highschool competition. but at the same time, Marbury and Yi drop 30 a game over there.


I don't think they are better than HS comp.

Mudiay doesn't even really look like he's trying.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:28 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtnziNbKlk
mudiay's 2nd highlights from china


I don't find it impressive at all. It looks like a scrimmage with high school kids.

Isn't there a limit to how much PT a professional player gets on the floor in Chinese basketball?

It certainly isn't pushing or advancing his skill level. He's just getting away with things.


those guys are much better than today's highschool competition. but at the same time, Marbury and Yi drop 30 a game over there.


I don't think they are better than HS comp.

Mudiay doesn't even really look like he's trying.


HS comp is absolutely pathetic today. kids don't look like they've hit puberty. a generation of late bloomers
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8xXKmvsyU One of the most intriguing talents I'm looking forward to seeing this season is Malik Pope. Missed his senior year of HS with a broken leg. Has grown to 6'10.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject:

JoJo Dancer wrote:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8xXKmvsyU One of the most intriguing talents I'm looking forward to seeing this season is Malik Pope. Missed his senior year of HS with a broken leg. Has grown to 6'10.


wow, thanks for introducing me to him. just might be my favorite wing prospect. skill off the dribble + 6'10, that's my fav type of wing. and im not too high on the other wings in this class.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:02 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
JoJo Dancer wrote:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8xXKmvsyU One of the most intriguing talents I'm looking forward to seeing this season is Malik Pope. Missed his senior year of HS with a broken leg. Has grown to 6'10.


wow, thanks for introducing me to him. just might be my favorite wing prospect. skill off the dribble + 6'10, that's my fav type of wing. and im not too high on the other wings in this class.


The scary thing is he is only like 15 years old in that video.
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