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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject:

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Already 23 blocks in 24 games for Lonzo. It took DLO 115 games to reach this total. He really has great timing to go along with his size, lenght and jumping abilities.


Plus his motor is high.


Most of these so-called media people think his motor is low. Not sure how you get that many steals, blocks, rebounds, assists, with a low motor.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:45 pm    Post subject:

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Already 23 blocks in 24 games for Lonzo. It took DLO 115 games to reach this total. He really has great timing to go along with his size, lenght and jumping abilities.


Plus his motor is high.


Most of these so-called media people think his motor is low. Not sure how you get that many steals, blocks, rebounds, assists, with a low motor.


Yea I heard dumbass Skip say that. Lmao. Along with "he has a GREAT, not good handle" and "he is a P/R stud, that's what he needs to do more"

Hahahah, ahahahaha
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject:

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Already 23 blocks in 24 games for Lonzo. It took DLO 115 games to reach this total. He really has great timing to go along with his size, lenght and jumping abilities.


Plus his motor is high.


Most of these so-called media people think his motor is low. Not sure how you get that many steals, blocks, rebounds, assists, with a low motor.


Yea I heard dumbass Skip say that. Lmao. Along with "he has a GREAT, not good handle" and "he is a P/R stud, that's what he needs to do more"

Hahahah, ahahahaha


Yea Skip was one of them. I would agree his handles are not great right now and only a good passer out of the PnR. Their analysis of him is just backwards.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:18 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Afrosho wrote:
Already 23 blocks in 24 games for Lonzo. It took DLO 115 games to reach this total. He really has great timing to go along with his size, lenght and jumping abilities.


Plus his motor is high.


Most of these so-called media people think his motor is low. Not sure how you get that many steals, blocks, rebounds, assists, with a low motor.


Yea I heard dumbass Skip say that. Lmao. Along with "he has a GREAT, not good handle" and "he is a P/R stud, that's what he needs to do more"

Hahahah, ahahahaha


He's all over the map, isn't he? Wow.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject:

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Lonzo is a very good athlete. I think people confuse not dunking with not being able to. He's very physically capable of attacking with athleticism, he just doesn't. He's also lightning fast with the ball which is difficult to do for a lot of players. I wonder why like doesn't run more pick and rolls with him. Maybe he doesn't want the team to be dependent on it.


Is that why he shoots a lot of lay-ups from almost below the rim or gets a lot of his shots blocked by other guards?

Being able to catch a lob or throw down a breakaway drunk doesn't make someone a very good athlete or explosive leaper.

With a full head of steam, he is very fast with the ball. He isn't overly quick though and that is more important when trying to get to the rim in the half court.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject:

What other PG contests at the rim? Got called for a foul though. But still, dang.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:21 pm    Post subject:

Best start to a game I've seen maybe all season.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:23 pm    Post subject:

He and Oladipo are the only guards with 30+ steals and 20+ blocks. Nice.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject:

He needs to learn to play with foul trouble. After he took that charge, every time he got into the paint he passed, and lots of times he passed early

Granted he gave people crazy open shots, but some of those were probably easy layups
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject:

ChickenBeckerman wrote:
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epak wrote:
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Lonzo Ball FGs in the paint:

Games 01-10: 20/57 (blocked 12) - 35.0%
Games 11-20: 21/50 (blocked 06) - 42.0%
Games 21-24: 10/18 (blocked 03) - 55.5%

Improvements?


How many are those are dunks from lobs?


Ally oops
Games 01-10: 0-0
Games 11-20: 3-3
Games 21-24: 0-0

Layups
Games 01-10: 16-40 40%
Games 11-20: 17-41 42%
Games 21-24: 08-14 57%


epak, how are you doing it? how are you referencing these stats so fast!

mannn... of you don't mind, lemme know your links & methods, I'd love to do this type of statistical sleuthing too!


nba.com brother!
https://stats.nba.com/player/1628366/shooting/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&DateFrom=10%2F01%2F2017&DateTo=11%2F05%2F2017

You can set dates for the stats you want.

And I use https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/balllo01/gamelog/2018/ to see which dates are the games 1-10, etc.


Excellent! thanks!


The data found on NBA.com now is absolutely fantastic. Their search engine works really well too.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject:

Zo had a few solid moments and contributed to the win.
5 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:53 pm    Post subject:

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Zo had a few solid moments and contributed to the win.
5 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists


There is no reason why he shouldn’t average triple doubles every game, but he seems to sit to much and that kinda throws his game off.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject:

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Zo had a few solid moments and contributed to the win.
5 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists


There is no reason why he shouldn’t average triple doubles every game, but he seems to sit to much and that kinda throws his game off.


Uhm. Oscar/Westbrook like as a rookie? Geez.
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Zo had a few solid moments and contributed to the win.
5 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists


There is no reason why he shouldn’t average triple doubles every game, but he seems to sit to much and that kinda throws his game off.


Luke did the right thing tonight. JC more than rose to the occasion.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:58 pm    Post subject:

Anyone got a gif of Monk coming into the game and giving Lonzo dap? Thought that was cool with their history
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:59 pm    Post subject:

Zo was playing a decent game but JC was out of his mind tonight and Luke made the right call to let him finish. A very nice problem to have. Good win.

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Anyone got a gif of Monk coming into the game and giving Lonzo dap? Thought that was cool with their history


When you are making the type of money those guys are making everybody should be cool!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:59 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Zo had a few solid moments and contributed to the win.
5 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists


There is no reason why he shouldn’t average triple doubles every game, but he seems to sit to much and that kinda throws his game off.


Kid is averaging 33.9 mins per game. If you can't find your game with that amount of playing time maybe it's time to play tennis so he can play all game.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject:

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Anyone got a gif of Monk coming into the game and giving Lonzo dap? Thought that was cool with their history


Heh. If you're referring to the Kentucky game, they knew each other prior.
If you mean high school, then yep. They were on the same McDonald's all American team.
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pio2u wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Zo had a few solid moments and contributed to the win.
5 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists


There is no reason why he shouldn’t average triple doubles every game, but he seems to sit to much and that kinda throws his game off.


Luke did the right thing tonight. JC more than rose to the occasion.

And KCP was shooting well
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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Anyone got a gif of Monk coming into the game and giving Lonzo dap? Thought that was cool with their history


Heh. If you're referring to the Kentucky game, they knew each other prior.
If you mean high school, then yep. They were on the same McDonald's all American team.

chino hills also played monks high school team. monk dropped 50, lonzo had a triple double and the win
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Anyone got a gif of Monk coming into the game and giving Lonzo dap? Thought that was cool with their history


Heh. If you're referring to the Kentucky game, they knew each other prior.
If you mean high school, then yep. They were on the same McDonald's all American team.

chino hills also played monks high school team. monk dropped 50, lonzo had a triple double and the win



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Any media person that tries to push a "Lonzo got benched in the 4th" narrative will be exposed as a blind hater, troll, or clickbait scammer.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject:

I am just leaving this here:

How can a guard be the worst FT taker in the history of the NBA so far?

I mean. My MOM is a better FT shooter than he is. And i am not even kidding.

For Fck sake. I want to support Lonzo but he just is so horrendous in anything shooting related that it becomes hard to take him seriously.

The FT question is absolutely unacceptable and mind boggling. How did he make it in the NBA has a PG who cannot hit a FT, is a mystery that must be explained.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject:

Anyways, totally disregarding the last post...

I don't care Ball sat out in the 4th. Clarkson was playing well, and Ball played really good, and we got the W. We still have NY & CLE ahead of us on this road trip. No need to over work and overwhelm the rookie. The W is what's important. Learning how to win as a team is what's important. Having the team stay together during the tough stretches is what's important. And we are doing just that.
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