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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:52 am    Post subject: Hypothetical: Would you trade Lonzo or Ingram for a Top 5 Pick in 2018 Draft?

For a chance to draft any one of:

- DeAndre Ayton
- Luka Doncic
- Marvin Bagley III
- Michael Porter Jr.
- Trae Young

Hypothetically of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:53 am    Post subject:

I don't know enough about this draft class, so I don't know about Lonzo.
Ingram? In a heartbeat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject:

huh? what the... we trade a #2 pick who has had a year or 2 to develop for a new pick??? Glad you're not the GM... jeez...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject:

How good or deep is the 2018 draft class compared to last years?

Just started watching highlights of Trae Young thanks to ESPN's coverage of him.

A freshman PG averaging 29.7 points, 10.7 assists, shooting like Steph Curry and breaking NCAA records as I type is really impressive. Then I look onto the mock drafts and see he's only ranked 6th!

If he was in 2017, where would he rank?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject:

HumanVictoryCigar wrote:
huh? what the... we trade a #2 pick who has had a year or 2 to develop for a new pick??? Glad you're not the GM... jeez...


Hypothetically sensitive?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject:

Hypothetical no.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject:

Honestly, the last thing this team needs is more 19 year olds. We need to develop what we have instead of spinning the wheels endlessly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject:

Jordan-esque wrote:
How good or deep is the 2018 draft class compared to last years?

Just started watching highlights of Trae Young thanks to ESPN's coverage of him.

A freshman PG averaging 29.7 points, 10.7 assists, shooting like Steph Curry and breaking NCAA records as I type is really impressive. Then I look onto the mock drafts and see he's only ranked 6th!

If he was in 2017, where would he rank?


Probably 1st, above Fultz for sure. His team is also 12-1 right now so that helps his draft stock because it shows he's a winner and not just a stats stuffer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject:

No
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject:

God no. I would love to get some size, but Zo is special.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject:

As a reality check, I am going to pick a couple of draft classes a few backs at random. Here are the top 5 picks from 12 and 13:

Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Cody Zeller
Alex Len

Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Dion Waters
Thomas Robinson


Out of the 10, one superstar; one guy who looks he might be an all-star; a few decent rotation players and some busts.

I don't know if Ball will be a superstar, but he'll probably be better than the average top 5 pick. Ingram is a question mark to me; but like a lot of guys, if he does become something it will take a few years.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:06 pm    Post subject:

Nashlight wrote:
Jordan-esque wrote:
How good or deep is the 2018 draft class compared to last years?

Just started watching highlights of Trae Young thanks to ESPN's coverage of him.

A freshman PG averaging 29.7 points, 10.7 assists, shooting like Steph Curry and breaking NCAA records as I type is really impressive. Then I look onto the mock drafts and see he's only ranked 6th!

If he was in 2017, where would he rank?


Probably 1st, above Fultz for sure. His team is also 12-1 right now so that helps his draft stock because it shows he's a winner and not just a stats stuffer.


In that case.... probably. But let me go watch some of the higher picks like Doncic aka "Euro LeBron". If he can be anything like Ben Simmons then I would be tempted to hypotheticaly trade into this draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:12 pm    Post subject:

Ingram yep

Lonzo maybe
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:17 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
Ingram yep

Lonzo maybe

Adding Doncic, Ayton, or Young to Lonzo and Kuzma would be pretty sweet.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:17 pm    Post subject:

in a heartbeat for the 1st three guys. I would need to ensure Porter checked out medically....and I still have not fully concluded on what I think Trae Young will be as a pro (although he is an amazing college player). I am not sure how anyone says no to the top 3 guys....all of them project to be higher level players than Lonzo did in the draft or does as a rookie. They all clearly have franchise player potential.

The 2017 class was deep....likely much deeper than this class through the 1st round.....but the 2018 class is stronger at the top...especially those top 3 picks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
As a reality check, I am going to pick a couple of draft classes a few backs at random. Here are the top 5 picks from 12 and 13:

Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Cody Zeller
Alex Len

Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Dion Waters
Thomas Robinson


Out of the 10, one superstar; one guy who looks he might be an all-star; a few decent rotation players and some busts.

I don't know if Ball will be a superstar, but he'll probably be better than the average top 5 pick. Ingram is a question mark to me; but like a lot of guys, if he does become something it will take a few years.


including the 2013 draft....I am having doubts about the randomness of your selection.....everyone knew the 2013 draft was weak by 2012.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
Ingram yep

Lonzo maybe

Adding Doncic, Ayton, or Young to Lonzo and Kuzma would be pretty sweet.


Adding Doncic, Ayton, or Bagley to Ingram and Kuzma would be pretty sweet also....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject:

Jordan-esque wrote:
Nashlight wrote:
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How good or deep is the 2018 draft class compared to last years?

Just started watching highlights of Trae Young thanks to ESPN's coverage of him.

A freshman PG averaging 29.7 points, 10.7 assists, shooting like Steph Curry and breaking NCAA records as I type is really impressive. Then I look onto the mock drafts and see he's only ranked 6th!

If he was in 2017, where would he rank?


Probably 1st, above Fultz for sure. His team is also 12-1 right now so that helps his draft stock because it shows he's a winner and not just a stats stuffer.


In that case.... probably. But let me go watch some of the higher picks like Doncic aka "Euro LeBron". If he can be anything like Ben Simmons then I would be tempted to hypotheticaly trade into this draft.



Doncic and Simmons in the same draft?

Simmons has more size to rebound and is likely better with the fancy passes, but Doncic for most of the other categories.

I would go with Doncic over Simmons.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
Ingram yep

Lonzo maybe

Adding Doncic, Ayton, or Young to Lonzo and Kuzma would be pretty sweet.


Adding Doncic, Ayton, or Bagley to Ingram and Kuzma would be pretty sweet also....

Less sweet, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
activeverb wrote:
As a reality check, I am going to pick a couple of draft classes a few backs at random. Here are the top 5 picks from 12 and 13:

Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Cody Zeller
Alex Len

Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Dion Waters
Thomas Robinson


Out of the 10, one superstar; one guy who looks he might be an all-star; a few decent rotation players and some busts.

I don't know if Ball will be a superstar, but he'll probably be better than the average top 5 pick. Ingram is a question mark to me; but like a lot of guys, if he does become something it will take a few years.


including the 2013 draft....I am having doubts about the randomness of your selection.....everyone knew the 2013 draft was weak by 2012.



Pick any two years you like. I just went back 4 and 5 years without remembering who was picked.

The main point is a top 5 pick isn't the sure thing people sometimes think.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
Ingram yep

Lonzo maybe


Same.

I'd trade Ingram for Ayton, Don, Bagley.

All I know is I don't want the Celtics to get any of those players.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject:

No, I wouldn't make or even consider making the trade today.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:52 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
adkindo wrote:
activeverb wrote:
As a reality check, I am going to pick a couple of draft classes a few backs at random. Here are the top 5 picks from 12 and 13:

Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Cody Zeller
Alex Len

Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Dion Waters
Thomas Robinson


Out of the 10, one superstar; one guy who looks he might be an all-star; a few decent rotation players and some busts.

I don't know if Ball will be a superstar, but he'll probably be better than the average top 5 pick.

Ingram is a question mark to me; but like a lot of guys, if he does become something it will take a few years.


including the 2013 draft....I am having doubts about the randomness of your selection.....everyone knew the 2013 draft was weak by 2012.



Pick any two years you like. I just went back 4 and 5 years without remembering who was picked.

The main point is a top 5 pick isn't the sure thing people sometimes think.


By those logics, are you saying Ingram right now is a "sure thing"?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:52 pm    Post subject:

So has the LG crew finally given up on Ingram despite the fact that he’s not healthy right now and is dealing with a injury that usually slows down players?
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