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Doc JC Star Player
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Main issue with Lonzo was that he never looked balanced when taking his shot. Legs and feet all over the place a lot of times. Now he looks much more square to the basket with the reduced motion in his shot and hopefully his lower body will be more consistent. His release also quicker now it seems.
As an aside, Fultz shot looks like it takes forever to get off. |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Doc JC wrote: | Main issue with Lonzo was that he never looked balanced when taking his shot. Legs and feet all over the place a lot of times. Now he looks much more square to the basket with the reduced motion in his shot and hopefully his lower body will be more consistent. His release also quicker now it seems.
As an aside, Fultz shot looks like it takes forever to get off. |
It’s easy to be on balance in practice so we’ll see if that translates to the games. As for Fultz, his shot is still not smooth at all. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Defensively they are top 10 maybe even top 5 |
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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: |
Defensively they are top 10 maybe even top 5 |
It's also important to consider backups. There is little or no dropoff from Lonzo and KCP to Rondo and Hart. Taking everything into consideration, I expect us to have a top 10 back court by the end of the season. |
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lewis Star Player
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Bench player maybe, but those are all NBA players. It's probably more about the guy opposite them--All of them either all-stars and/or all-defense. (Was shocked to find Conley never made an all-star game??) |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:23 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: |
Bench player maybe, but those are all NBA players. It's probably more about the guy opposite them--All of them either all-stars and/or all-defense. (Was shocked to find Conley never made an all-star game??) |
I said NBA starter not non NAB player.... |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:09 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: |
Bench player maybe, but those are all NBA players. It's probably more about the guy opposite them--All of them either all-stars and/or all-defense. (Was shocked to find Conley never made an all-star game??) |
Joys of playing in the Western Conference during the rise of the super guards. And it took Conley about 5-6 seasons to get really good. _________________ Under New Management |
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Hydro21 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hydro21 wrote: | That extra muscle he put on this offseason already helping his game . |
Lonzo Ball said getting stronger changed his jumpshot a lot. Said he doesn’t have to “fling it” as much and that getting to the rim is easier. |
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Username Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Bulked up Lonzo looks exactly like LiAngelo. |
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Annihilator Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Bleacher Report touched on Ball’s playmaking and defense as a reason this backcourt excels. Unfortunately, his shooting numbers were so bad, they dragged down his overall numbers. However, if his shooting numbers improve as the Lakers are hoping, that will assuredly push the Lakers’ backcourt into the top half of the league.
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Actually, I have a hard time disagreeing with that ranking. Ball shot atrociously. Recall that Ball had 45.1% free throw and 30.8% 3 pt shooting averages. Ouch. Ball's superb defense and rebounding is what pulled them into 17th!! With significant improvement in Ball's shooting this year, which we all expect, that duo could easily be top ten.
Go Lakers!! This is going to be a fabulous year. _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Username wrote: | Bulked up Lonzo looks exactly like LiAngelo. |
Hopefully he's not Vegeta-ing it |
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818fan Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hydro21 wrote: | Hydro21 wrote: | That extra muscle he put on this offseason already helping his game . |
Lonzo Ball said getting stronger changed his jumpshot a lot. Said he doesn’t have to “fling it” as much and that getting to the rim is easier. |
He never said it "changed his jumpshot a lot" He said the opposite where there's not as much of a change as people have been saying. But he did say it's a bit more centered |
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818fan Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm so excited about the Rondo signing. I love that Ball was shocked to see what Rondo could pick apart in a film room. He's going to learn so much from Rondo |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't see if anyone posted it, but Lonzo said he has just been cleared for "everything". By the doctors at least. Still up to Luke if he wants to keep him out of 5 on 5. |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Did anyone notice, and it doesn't matter at all if noticed, but that the talk is all about Lonzo, and no longer about his pops?
As long as his shot improves I think the kid will be a star. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | Did anyone notice, and it doesn't matter at all if noticed, but that the talk is all about Lonzo, and no longer about his pops?
As long as his shot improves I think the kid will be a star. |
Music to my ears. For now at least |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Is there such a thing as buffing out too much? Sheesh.
I hope the muscles don't affect his shooting
But on a serious note, he's huge. Hoping he's not skipping leg day. |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Zo is looking really good. I think he'll shred up a little bit once he starts going 5 on 5 again during training camp. That increased strength n size is going to help him so much going into the paint and on defense. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Zo is going to be huge when he's 24 in his prime..... he'll be repping 350 on bench.... he already reps 250.. |
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NotHype Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Zo is going to be huge when he's 24 in his prime..... he'll be repping 350 on bench.... he already reps 250.. |
He definitely has a good frame to build on |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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NotHype wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Zo is going to be huge when he's 24 in his prime..... he'll be repping 350 on bench.... he already reps 250.. |
He definitely has a good frame to build on |
ya he's guna be strong as s***. bumping guys off in the lane. 4 position defender probably, lol |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | NotHype wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Zo is going to be huge when he's 24 in his prime..... he'll be repping 350 on bench.... he already reps 250.. |
He definitely has a good frame to build on |
ya he's guna be strong as s***. bumping guys off in the lane. 4 position defender probably, lol |
Yes I could see that!!
Was actually pleasantly surprised to see how noticeably bigger he looks. Seems like he is really trying to improve and succeed. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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NotHype wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | NotHype wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Zo is going to be huge when he's 24 in his prime..... he'll be repping 350 on bench.... he already reps 250.. |
He definitely has a good frame to build on |
ya he's guna be strong as s***. bumping guys off in the lane. 4 position defender probably, lol |
Yes I could see that!!
Was actually pleasantly surprised to see how noticeably bigger he looks. Seems like he is really trying to improve and succeed. |
I think they all hit the weightroom a similar amount.. BI just can't put much on his frame, only incrementally. He should look bigger by his prime though |
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