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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Kuzma would win in a landslide if there was a handicap depending on your draft position. But I think Lonzo or Simmons will win. |
Based on draft position, right now it's Dillion Brooks -- a mid second round pick who is averaging 14 ppg on 55% shooting. |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Would love to see Zo and Kuz share it a la Kobe and Shaq in the 2009 All star game. |
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Raijin Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Kuzma would win in a landslide if there was a handicap depending on your draft position. But I think Lonzo or Simmons will win. |
Based on draft position, right now it's Dillion Brooks -- a mid second round pick who is averaging 14 ppg on 55% shooting. |
The guy with a wingspan shorter than his height. That won't last _________________ "It was tough," Kobe Bryant said. "But when it got really tough for me, I just checked myself in." |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Raijin wrote: | activeverb wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Kuzma would win in a landslide if there was a handicap depending on your draft position. But I think Lonzo or Simmons will win. |
Based on draft position, right now it's Dillion Brooks -- a mid second round pick who is averaging 14 ppg on 55% shooting. |
The guy with a wingspan shorter than his height. That won't last |
J.J. Reddick waves "hi" - no, over there. Just trust me, he's waving at you. |
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Tick Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Kuzma ROY? |
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socalsp3 wrote: | I think in the running against Zo, DSJ, Simmons. If he gets enough minutes, I think he puts up enough numbers to be ROY. The only question mark is Luke's rotations. PG is hardest position to learn I think it would be harder for Zo and Simmons to put up enough stats. DSJ has the green light and minutes in Dallas as a scorer so he would be the toughest guy for Kuz to beat. |
Kuzma may not get the ROY, but, he's certainly turning heads. |
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AC Green's V-Card Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Kuzma would win in a landslide if there was a handicap depending on your draft position. But I think Lonzo or Simmons will win. |
Based on draft position, right now it's Dillion Brooks -- a mid second round pick who is averaging 14 ppg on 55% shooting. |
I really think people ought to pump the breaks on the season averages until we get at least a fourth of the way into the season. Dillon Brooks was averaging 19 PPG after the first game, 14 PPG after the second game, and 10.3 PPG after tonight. We need more data to let things stabilize. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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AC Green's V-Card wrote: | activeverb wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Kuzma would win in a landslide if there was a handicap depending on your draft position. But I think Lonzo or Simmons will win. |
Based on draft position, right now it's Dillion Brooks -- a mid second round pick who is averaging 14 ppg on 55% shooting. |
I really think people ought to pump the breaks on the season averages until we get at least a fourth of the way into the season. Dillon Brooks was averaging 19 PPG after the first game, 14 PPG after the second game, and 10.3 PPG after tonight. We need more data to let things stabilize. |
I agree with that. People were despondent after game #1 against the league's #1 defense. Then we played the #30 and #25 defenses and they are excited.
Players and teams go up and down. |
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Big Game James Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure what some of you are smoking here, but it is a two way race between Lonzo and Simmons. Stats are hard to ignore. _________________ Don't make me give you a trout slap! |
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socalsp3 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Big Game James wrote: | Not sure what some of you are smoking here, but it is a two way race between Lonzo and Simmons. Stats are hard to ignore. |
Things will change once kuz gets to start |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Simmons
Kuzma
Tatum
DSJ
Ball _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo cuts that beachball hairdo down he's got a good chance. Right now the wind resistance is slowing him down. In all seriousness, barring injury, I do think Lonzo is the frontrunner for ROY.
Lonzo, Simmons, DSJ are 3 guys who will be in the running. I have been extremely impressed with Kuzma since seeing him play game 1 of the SPL, and he's only built on that impression the more I see of him. He is just so good at so many things in bball IQ and skill and has such a high activity level/motor compared to kids that are 19. I don't think he will win ROY, but I do think he could win it if he really kills it during the season - it's possible. He's not out of the running and has more than turned some heads. Top 5 player in this group of draft picks as of right now. We've got two of the top 5 players in this past draft on our team IMHO. That's something to build on. _________________ "Why do you think bad things happen, anyway???" "So we have something good to look forward to."
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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If it was last year, I'd say Kuzma had a chance. Still has an outside chance for this year, especially if Randle and Luke cannot find an equilibrium, and Kuz ends up taking his minutes.
But the front runners have to be Simmons and Ball.
I'll be happy if both Ball and Kuzma make the All Rookie Team. |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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No. This one is Simmons or lonzo, and I'd give Simmons the edge.
Who votes?
I ask because lavar's comments will turn off plenty of people |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the people who said this is a two horse race. Simmons & Ball. Voters will have to consider points, rebounds, & assists per game. As well as win/loss record, if the team made the playoffs, and how many triple-doubles a person has. The pendulum is swinging in Simmons' favor right now, plus he's older, has better teammates, & plays in an historically weak East. With that said, Lonzo has the national spotlight, the Lakers brand, and some other intangibles that might help him propel to the finish line. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Someone got destroyed and then he didn't even answer the question... |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:50 am Post subject: |
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If he gets consistent minutes, I think he can be in the race for ROY. Give kuz 30 min and he’s likely to be at 20 ppg which is pretty high for a rookie and would garner attention league wide. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I think Ben Simmons will get it. |
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lakers4sho Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:06 am Post subject: |
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unless ball starts consistently posting mind blowing numbers or simmons gets hurt it's simmons' to lose |
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AC Green's V-Card wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Simmons and Embid are the real deal.. Not so sure about Fultz.. Looks like Simmons will most likely get ROY. |
Could you imagine the freakout now if we had Fultz... |
I think it would be warranted to some extent.. the freak out. He looks so ordinary, nothing jumps out to me about his game. |
I have almost no doubt that his shoulder injury is real and being downplayed by Fultz (or the team). According to Sixers fans, he doesn't shoot jumpers in pre-game warmups and he took a jump ball with his left hand. They gotta sit the kid until he's healthy enough to shoot and play like he did in Washington. |
They seemed to be over reactive with their other picks, if it is the shoulder I am surprised they haven’t sat him. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I think it’ll come down to Simmons/Lonzo. Best team wins. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Simmons will win pretty easily IMO
But Lonzo, DSJ, Tatum, and Kuzma will all be in the convo. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | I think it’ll come down to Simmons/Lonzo. Best team wins. |
Unfortunately, Lonzo is in the tougher conference. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:46 am Post subject: |
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It'd be great for Ku if he could bag the ROY... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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Sina Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:46 am Post subject: |
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There are many good rookies this year in Simons, Ball, Tatum...Kuzma is good but not better than them |
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